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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by grecy »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #914
grecy wrote: post #907

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> AFAICT, sports cars faster than a 911 are relatively common Can you provide a list please? You are very much mistaken without getting into supercar territory.

AFAICT, Tesla was testing against a base model 911. The list would be pretty short comparing against a Turbo S.

I'm asking for a list of production vehicle that don't cost as much as a house that run a sub 11 quarter mile.

You said "sports cars faster than a 911 are relatively common", so you should be able to pull together a big list easily.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by screye »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #821
xcv123 wrote: post #699

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Motorsports enthusiasts look at Nürburgring lap times. The Porsche 911 is at the highest level of performance on any track where you actually have to use the brakes and steering wheel. If the Cybertruck can do a good lap on the Nürburgring then its "FAST", but it probably isn't, due to weight. The 911 is not built for drag racing, it's built for a track with corners where you have to use the brakes and steering wheel…

But tow what? The bed is too small to be useful and so far as anyone knows there isn't an all-steel CyberCaravan or CyberDinghy in the pipeline. Being able to tow big heavy stuff isn't necessarily a great idea, because big heavy stuff needs to stop as well as start. If you're used to accelerating hard and braking hard, your big heavy stuff is going to have real problems with that.

It has the same bed as a Ford F150 and that's the most sold "car" in the US.

Reality is, no one needs a truck, but everyone buys a truck. And as long as people are buying trucks for vanity purposes, this pure vanity vehicle is going to be top of their pile.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by grecy »

akmarinov wrote: post #841
Hamuko wrote: post #833

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How are the crumple zones on the Cybertruck for protecting the occupants inside the Cybertruck itself?

Not great - https://youtu.be/wqcu0j3Wsys?t=815

Actually extremely good

https://youtu.be/L6WDq0V5oBg?si=X0Lo5iOfzxAYl11D&t=1125

Given that Tesla have repeatedly designed the safest cars on the road, I'm very interested to see what Cybertruck's official crash test scores are.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by [deleted] »

gambiting wrote: post #836
poulpy123 wrote: post #830

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what I don't get is why the effect of a crash on other isn't taken into account in the evaluation of car safety

The impact to pedestrians is taken into account. The impact on other cars isn't, because I don't see how you'd do that objectively - do you just crash it against an identical model? A selection of several other cars from different categories/brands? How would you determine those? Do you just test head-on collisions, or the whole gauntlet of impacts? Wouldn't that make any test require dozens and dozens of vehicles, a…

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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by Havoc »

rcMgD2BwE72F wrote: post #883
Havoc wrote: post #805

Amazed they got the sharp hard metal edges past pedestrians safety review Or maybe the US doesn’t do those ?

The other pickup trucks are worse. Less shard edges but far more dangerous frontal area (bigger and flatter).

Is it? I think i'd prefer a flat frontal impact over sharp metal edge.

(unless we're going with the logic of sharp edge kills mercifully I guess)

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by grecy »

boznz wrote: post #688
boznz wrote: post #594

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Correct neither CAN or Ethernet say anything about IP ratings, but I guess having an ethernet switch as a distribution rather than everything on a chain restricts the failure to one device.

Just a thought but if its 48V and its ethernet I wonder if it is using power over ethernet?

I'm sure we will learn stuff like this when Munro tears one apart

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by illiac786 »

ben_w wrote: post #908
gambiting wrote: post #836

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The impact to pedestrians is taken into account. The impact on other cars isn't, because I don't see how you'd do that objectively - do you just crash it against an identical model? A selection of several other cars from different categories/brands? How would you determine those? Do you just test head-on collisions, or the whole gauntlet of impacts? Wouldn't that make any test require dozens and dozens of vehicles, a…

This is just an initial response, so probably flawed, but I'd suggest testing against a vehicle which only exists to represent the lowest safety rating (for occupants) that is allowed on the roads of whichever jurisdiction this is. If the new design results in harm to the passengers, it's unsafe for existing legal road users.

well a strong enough crash will always result in harm to either or both sides. One still has to define the type of crash etc.

I hate these minitanks but I acknowledge it's not simple to test like this.

Make heavier car forbidden on some roads or make them pay proportionally to a ratio of their empty weight vs. weight fully loaded would seem fair. This way trucks are not impacted, but stupidly heavy SUVs are. And apply a factor for EV, due to battery.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by gopher_space »

rcxdude wrote: post #810
gopher_space wrote: post #744

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Their whole problem was custom hardware. I don't know why people were so hot on them reinventing tested commodity electronics.

The complaint wasn't that they used an off-the-shelf controller, it's the fact that it was a no-name aliexpress special (and wireless to boot). They didn't even bother to use a well-respected brand like the wired xbox 360 controller, which has been used in all kinds of similar applications (they also didn't have a spare). It was obvious even to a relative layman that this was emblamatic of a cowboy attitude, compared…

Seriously? Why would you do that?

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by kortilla »

caconym_ wrote: post #759
kortilla wrote: post #739

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> pigheaded vanity of adult children. It is fucking disgusting. Presumably you suggest we also banish unhealthy food, cigarettes, weed, and alcohol, right? They are all responsible for significant deaths (especially when combined with any kind of driving) and are only for fun

Addiction and substance abuse are complicated topics, but ideally somebody partaking of tobacco, drugs, or alcohol is aware of the risk to their own person of doing so, and has freely chosen to partake regardless. Unfortunately, though I'm well aware of the mortal danger excessively large and powerful personal vehicles pose to me and my family on the road, the only ways I can opt out of that danger are to a) not driv…

> In short, yours is not a good analogy because the danger posed by the use of harmful addictive substances is to the self,

You didn’t read what I wrote. I specifically called out being under the influence. A drunk behind the wheel of the Corolla is far more dangerous to pedestrians than a teetotaling truck driver. Similar to anyone at a high risk of heart attack or stroke that gets behind the wheel.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by kortilla »

resolutebat wrote: post #749
kortilla wrote: post #739

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> pigheaded vanity of adult children. It is fucking disgusting. Presumably you suggest we also banish unhealthy food, cigarettes, weed, and alcohol, right? They are all responsible for significant deaths (especially when combined with any kind of driving) and are only for fun

Did you miss the part about being 2.5x more likely to kill other people , as in, not the people in the truck?

Did you miss the part about drunk driving?
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