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Automakers must build cheaper, smaller EVs to spur adoption, report says

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Re: Automakers must build cheaper, smaller EVs to spur adoption, report says

#5
Isn't the upsizing of vehicles because of consumer demand, though?

They can sell crossovers and trucks into the consumer base at such volume and margin that it is worthwhile to simply stop making sedans.

There are people like me who just want an electric honda fit but it seems like there aren't enough of us to be worth the effort.

Re: Automakers must build cheaper, smaller EVs to spur adoption, report says

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Hybrids will spur adoption faster and cheaper than anything

Hybrids doesn't make sense to me. If you need a car that runs on gas then make it a proper ICE car. Why put two engines into one? Seems super wasteful.

Consumer report says hybrids are more reliable than ICE and EVs https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-reliability-owner-s...

"Overall, hybrids have 26 percent fewer problems than cars powered by internal combustion engines (ICE)."

Re: Automakers must build cheaper, smaller EVs to spur adoption, report says

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Nah. People don't want small cars. Don't try to sell them yet another Bolt or Leaf they won't buy while the inventory languishes on some sad dealer lot until the model is discontinued due to anemic sales. Focus on revealed preference, not what consumers say they want.

> Yes, it’s true that the Ford F-150 remained the most popular vehicle sold in America last year. No surprise. It has been for 40 years. In fact, the F-150 was the most popular new and used vehicle sold in America last year. Ford moved 726,004 F-150s out showroom doors in 2021, making it the top seller by over 150,000 units. The Ram 1500 finally moved up from third to second with 569,388 and the Chevrolet Silverado fell to third with 519,774.

https://www.autoweek.com/news/trucks/a38752901/most-popular-...

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/the-best-selling-vehicle-in...

https://electrek.co/2023/05/25/tesla-model-y-is-now-the-worl...

Re: Automakers must build cheaper, smaller EVs to spur adoption, report says

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post #4

Hybrids will spur adoption faster and cheaper than anything

Hybrids doesn't make sense to me. If you need a car that runs on gas then make it a proper ICE car. Why put two engines into one? Seems super wasteful.

Electric for 95% of driving, gas to eliminate range anxiety for the few longer trips per year. Use the gas for charging the batteries - no connection between gas engine and electric drivetrain.

Re: Automakers must build cheaper, smaller EVs to spur adoption, report says

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hybrids doesn't make sense to me. If you need a car that runs on gas then make it a proper ICE car. Why put two engines into one? Seems super wasteful.

Consumer report says hybrids are more reliable than ICE and EVs https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-reliability-owner-s... "Overall, hybrids have 26 percent fewer problems than cars powered by internal combustion engines (ICE)."

Seems fishy to me. How can a more complex device (ICE + EV) be more reliable than a pure ICE or EV? Also seems like a crap website, their chart show 79% more problems as red and then 26% fever as green.
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