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RavynOS Finesse of macOS. Freedom of FreeBSD

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Re: RavynOS Finesse of macOS. Freedom of FreeBSD

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Post by gumballindie »

hedora wrote: post #90
gumballindie wrote: post #8

Well done for runining my weekend! I will give it a try. However, still struggling with NVidia drivers on FreeBSD. For the life of me I can't get them to work.

This is why I switched to AMD video cards. NVIDIA was always flaky under Linux. I finally got a working setup, and then they stopped backporting new OpenGL features to the binary blob drivers for it, breaking all sorts of stuff. CUDA is a big advantage for NVIDIA, but I don’t use it. Similarly, NVIDIA hardware tends to be a half a generation ahead. Whatever. The AMD drivers are open source, in kernel tree, and reliab…

Hm ok but this is freebsd not linux.

Re: RavynOS Finesse of macOS. Freedom of FreeBSD

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Post by sharts »

butterisgood wrote: post #114

My basic opinion is that there are really no great desktop operating systems currently being made anymore. Mac OS used to be it but started losing me after Snow Leopard to be completely honest. I feel both desktop producing companies that actually matter (can run all the productivity apps I need to do my job) have put this space on the back burner for cloud (Microsoft) or consumer electronics (Apple). No year has eve…

Indeed seems like post-Snow Leopard was the beginning of the end.

Desktop seems to be converging to tablets. Which is just another way of saying, dumbing down of the UI and restricting what can be done, and offloading to the cloud.

Development suites will all move to containers in clouds just like VSCode does today.

Re: RavynOS Finesse of macOS. Freedom of FreeBSD

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Post by sunshine-o »

pipeline_peak wrote: post #46

> We’ve got your apps covered No you dont, RavynOS and HelloSystem are mediocre wrapper projects. Put your efforts towards GNUStep, don’t run with it and making something pretty. If GNUStep worked, it could be ran on Unix like systems people actually use like Ubuntu. This project is going to fail with “finesse”.

I remember 20 years ago Gnome or even KDE were toys compared to the very structured but slow moving GNUStep. GNUStep was also hard to install (no rpms), ugly but very snappy.

But nobody big put any money or devs on GNUStep. Even Sun invested in Gnome (!), what did not made sense at the time because they had invested in OpenStep & the whole thing was Java friendly (I believe Java was a first class citizen in early releases of Mac OS X).

I always wondered if it might have been because there were some legal risks...

Re: RavynOS Finesse of macOS. Freedom of FreeBSD

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Post by [deleted] »

latexr wrote: post #4

> ravynOS (previously called airyxOS) Subjectively, I find both names terrible. There’s zero chance I’ll vocalise either to someone and they’ll know how to spell it. The current one in particular is bound to have people typing “ravenous”. But the idea is interesting, and even though the screenshots don’t yet inspire confidence (the typeface is too thin, folder icons are too square, …) I wish the team the best of luck…

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Re: RavynOS Finesse of macOS. Freedom of FreeBSD

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Post by [deleted] »

butterisgood wrote: post #114

My basic opinion is that there are really no great desktop operating systems currently being made anymore. Mac OS used to be it but started losing me after Snow Leopard to be completely honest. I feel both desktop producing companies that actually matter (can run all the productivity apps I need to do my job) have put this space on the back burner for cloud (Microsoft) or consumer electronics (Apple). No year has eve…

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Re: RavynOS Finesse of macOS. Freedom of FreeBSD

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Post by torstenvl »

alpaca128 wrote: post #61
hnlmorg wrote: post #24

Maybe this is just me but I never considered Apples approach to software installs to be elegant. And I’m not a fan of their unified menu bar (or most aspected of their desktop environment for that matter). What I’d love to see would be a whole new desktop environment for macOS (homebrew has its warts but is a “good enough” package manager for my day to day needs)

I don't mind the idea of installing applications by dragging the icon to the folder. The problem is that many applications simply don't have the Application folder show up in that window. Seems like Apple relies on developers to make this interaction consistent, which obviously doesn't work.

When a mounted DMG is the foreground window, Finder should slightly adjust the .app handler. The default action will be "Install Application," which will pop up a confirmation window and, if confirmed, copy the application to /Applications.

The "Open" option should still be available for people who, for whatever reason, want to run an application directly from a DMG.

Re: RavynOS Finesse of macOS. Freedom of FreeBSD

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Post by layer8 »

cristeigabriel wrote: post #100

It just looks bad. You want to be MacOS? Actually go and copy it, as close to pixel perfect as you fancy. I've personally experimented with replicating UIs using just a "device" object to a graphical API, so I know very well that it is possible. What prevents this project from just... going out and actually doing what they're trying to achieve? Take high resolution screenshots, carefully understand what's going on, a…

A pixel-perfect copy would raise copyright issues.

Re: RavynOS Finesse of macOS. Freedom of FreeBSD

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Post by ffgjgf1 »

wkat4242 wrote: post #43

Huhh this is really cool. Never heard of it. And FreeBSD is actually my daily driver. So apparently it can run macOS apps? More or less. Cool. It'll be hard to find those compiled for intel though going forward. But we'll see. I'm actually quite happy with KDE on FreeBSD but perhaps their compatibility work can also be applied to vanilla FreeBSD. The only thing I really miss from macOS is Pixelmator.

> More or less

I think much less than less for most practical purposes.

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