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I realised recently that most media recommenders don't work for me because they are based on genre. If you like The Watchmen film, you're sure to like Marvel films because they're also action, and based on comics. We see you listened to Pearl Jam a lot, you're going to get a kick out of Nirvana. That's just not how I work. I like _good_ stuff, I don't confine myself to genres, I'll go anywhere if it's half decent. I…

I am like this also. It's tricky though because I think people hear 'quality' in different ways. Some people focus on lyrics, some like cultural identity, some people are probably responding at a more 'primal' level, i.e. just to the pure energy / emotion. But I do think it is different for everybody and does bear some relation to the individual's level of musical awareness and how much time and effort they invest in…

"I don't really listen to music" == "I don't breathe much".

Way back I had friends over, one of them was looking through my CD collection which was minimal at the time, maybe 60 CDs. "Wow, you have a lot of CDs, do you listen to all of them?"

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That's why "quality" radio can be so powerful: it's not uncommon for DJs to curate a set based on "songs with the same musician" or "original song and remakes/samples from the original" and the like. Not that it's guaranteed to be "good" stuff but at least unique and more memorable in my experience

Any recommendations? I listen to BBC 6 Music a lot. Tried various others but nothing really 'stuck'. Always fun to have a fly around on https://radio.garden also. KEXP have some great performances on youtube, I should try listening to the radio station probably. Although saying that, neither 6 Music or KEXP (or others I have tried) seem to go quite obscure enough for me. i like pop / rock / indie but also experimenta…

Def. NTS-Radio Love it

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Wow! Music recommenders come up every once in awhile on HN and they're almost alway unusable for underground music. Aside from not recognizing some of the names I tried, this one does quite well. It just needs quick links to listen to examples and it'll already be more useful than Spotify, Apple Music or Last.fm. Some test cases I used: Logic1000, Tessela, Piezo, TSVI, Two Shell, Caterina Barbieri, Schacke, Amnesia S…

haha nice tested with similar artists (eartheater, doon kanda, dean blunt...) :)) works really well. i'm impressed!

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This feels like the similarity isn't in terms of how the music sounds, it's similarity in terms of the social circles that the artists hang out in.

Example: all the indie video game artists are close together in this space, despite having huge breadth in their music styles.

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In my personal experience I gave up on Pandora. It was regularly suggesting me music that wasn't at all similar to the song I started on. In fact it was consistently worse at finding me similar music than just plain Spotify radio (or playlist enhancer) and/or YouTube Music radio. Contrast Chosic (which is free) - its recommendations are configurable and usually hit the mark much better: https://www.chosic.com/playlis…

Or maybe the similarities were just not in the perspective you expected? (two songs in widly distant genres/production styles can still be very similar on rythm, tonality, chords, tension, progression, structure, etc.)

It was actually the other way around. It would play me songs technically within the same broad genre (Hip Hop, RnB, Pop) but wildly different sound.

It felt less like a music genome project and more like this typical nonsense streaming platforms do, "people who listen to song A, also tend to listen to song B".

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Any recommendations? I listen to BBC 6 Music a lot. Tried various others but nothing really 'stuck'. Always fun to have a fly around on https://radio.garden also. KEXP have some great performances on youtube, I should try listening to the radio station probably. Although saying that, neither 6 Music or KEXP (or others I have tried) seem to go quite obscure enough for me. i like pop / rock / indie but also experimenta…

BBC 6 Music is a great example of what I'm talking about, they have such excellent taste. I've discovered so much great music listening to them.

IMO 6Music is the pinnacle of this concept. I have yet to find a better source of new 'good' music. I try to listen to it as much as possible.

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That's why "quality" radio can be so powerful: it's not uncommon for DJs to curate a set based on "songs with the same musician" or "original song and remakes/samples from the original" and the like. Not that it's guaranteed to be "good" stuff but at least unique and more memorable in my experience

Any recommendations? I listen to BBC 6 Music a lot. Tried various others but nothing really 'stuck'. Always fun to have a fly around on https://radio.garden also. KEXP have some great performances on youtube, I should try listening to the radio station probably. Although saying that, neither 6 Music or KEXP (or others I have tried) seem to go quite obscure enough for me. i like pop / rock / indie but also experimenta…

Radio Paradise is good for this.

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BBC 6 Music is a great example of what I'm talking about, they have such excellent taste. I've discovered so much great music listening to them.

IMO 6Music is the pinnacle of this concept. I have yet to find a better source of new 'good' music. I try to listen to it as much as possible.

I made a 6 Music 'now playing' app (https://radio-tracker.geoffclayton.com/) so I could easily keep track of things I liked. I kept hearing things then forgetting... I never _quite_ finished it, so never really advertised its existence, but over the course of year it has collected some interesting stats. It's there and it works, anyway! Mainly the Spotify integration part is not quite finished.

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Yes. Somgs-like-this-song is the thing I wanna find.

I have found this to be terrifically difficult. I went to the trouble of going through Tom Waits' discography to find something similar to "Alice," without luck. Some of my best mixes take years to create. The problem, to me, breaks down into three separate difficulties, perhaps three and a half: First, if the Music Genome people are correct, the number of variables (if you will) is quite large, creating an enormous…

350 genes for rap music? LOL please. what would that even entail? music genome project is the equivalent to the AI images with eyes everywhere in the photo from years ago. ancient tech that just does not work.

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Any recommendations? I listen to BBC 6 Music a lot. Tried various others but nothing really 'stuck'. Always fun to have a fly around on https://radio.garden also. KEXP have some great performances on youtube, I should try listening to the radio station probably. Although saying that, neither 6 Music or KEXP (or others I have tried) seem to go quite obscure enough for me. i like pop / rock / indie but also experimenta…

NTS does the job well for me: https://www.nts.live/

Seconded! I would highly recommend NTS. Their archive is great, dives into almost anything you can think of
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