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Re: Music-Map – Find Similar Music

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Post by tgv »

p1esk wrote: post #50

It is pretty bad for classical composers - groups together completely unrelated, very different people: I typed Monteverdi and the closest neighbors shown are Scriabin, Britten, Poulenc, Faure, Schubert. It does not make any sense.

I tried Gerald Finzi. It shows Vaughn Williams with and without Ralph, mixes composers with performers, and adds rather unrelated composers. It also adds "Clocks and Clouds". This is either an instrumental trio that creates "epic" music, or a composition by Ligeti, neither of which is in the same category nor has any relation musically to Finzi. And it adds "Yak Bondy", which is inexplicable.

I guess it just does things when there's not much data, but that makes it practically useless for discovery.

Re: Music-Map – Find Similar Music

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Post by jefc1111 »

roydivision wrote: post #64

I realised recently that most media recommenders don't work for me because they are based on genre. If you like The Watchmen film, you're sure to like Marvel films because they're also action, and based on comics. We see you listened to Pearl Jam a lot, you're going to get a kick out of Nirvana. That's just not how I work. I like _good_ stuff, I don't confine myself to genres, I'll go anywhere if it's half decent. I…

I am like this also. It's tricky though because I think people hear 'quality' in different ways. Some people focus on lyrics, some like cultural identity, some people are probably responding at a more 'primal' level, i.e. just to the pure energy / emotion. But I do think it is different for everybody and does bear some relation to the individual's level of musical awareness and how much time and effort they invest in cultivating their own taste. I once worked with someone who when asked "What kind of music are you into?" answered "I don't really listen to music". Shocking!

The best way I have found to find new stuff is just to listen to lots and lots of music, and follow different leads. It's hardy a chore doing so!

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Post by dieselgate »

roydivision wrote: post #64

I realised recently that most media recommenders don't work for me because they are based on genre. If you like The Watchmen film, you're sure to like Marvel films because they're also action, and based on comics. We see you listened to Pearl Jam a lot, you're going to get a kick out of Nirvana. That's just not how I work. I like _good_ stuff, I don't confine myself to genres, I'll go anywhere if it's half decent. I…

That's why "quality" radio can be so powerful: it's not uncommon for DJs to curate a set based on "songs with the same musician" or "original song and remakes/samples from the original" and the like.

Not that it's guaranteed to be "good" stuff but at least unique and more memorable in my experience

Re: Music-Map – Find Similar Music

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Post by jefc1111 »

dieselgate wrote: post #74
roydivision wrote: post #64

I realised recently that most media recommenders don't work for me because they are based on genre. If you like The Watchmen film, you're sure to like Marvel films because they're also action, and based on comics. We see you listened to Pearl Jam a lot, you're going to get a kick out of Nirvana. That's just not how I work. I like _good_ stuff, I don't confine myself to genres, I'll go anywhere if it's half decent. I…

That's why "quality" radio can be so powerful: it's not uncommon for DJs to curate a set based on "songs with the same musician" or "original song and remakes/samples from the original" and the like. Not that it's guaranteed to be "good" stuff but at least unique and more memorable in my experience

Any recommendations? I listen to BBC 6 Music a lot. Tried various others but nothing really 'stuck'. Always fun to have a fly around on https://radio.garden also. KEXP have some great performances on youtube, I should try listening to the radio station probably. Although saying that, neither 6 Music or KEXP (or others I have tried) seem to go quite obscure enough for me. i like pop / rock / indie but also experimental rock, lo-fi, noise, etc

Re: Music-Map – Find Similar Music

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Post by grp »

jefc1111 wrote: post #75
dieselgate wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's why "quality" radio can be so powerful: it's not uncommon for DJs to curate a set based on "songs with the same musician" or "original song and remakes/samples from the original" and the like. Not that it's guaranteed to be "good" stuff but at least unique and more memorable in my experience

Any recommendations? I listen to BBC 6 Music a lot. Tried various others but nothing really 'stuck'. Always fun to have a fly around on https://radio.garden also. KEXP have some great performances on youtube, I should try listening to the radio station probably. Although saying that, neither 6 Music or KEXP (or others I have tried) seem to go quite obscure enough for me. i like pop / rock / indie but also experimenta…

NTS does the job well for me:

https://www.nts.live/

Re: Music-Map – Find Similar Music

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Post by d--b »

jefc1111 wrote: post #75
dieselgate wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's why "quality" radio can be so powerful: it's not uncommon for DJs to curate a set based on "songs with the same musician" or "original song and remakes/samples from the original" and the like. Not that it's guaranteed to be "good" stuff but at least unique and more memorable in my experience

Any recommendations? I listen to BBC 6 Music a lot. Tried various others but nothing really 'stuck'. Always fun to have a fly around on https://radio.garden also. KEXP have some great performances on youtube, I should try listening to the radio station probably. Although saying that, neither 6 Music or KEXP (or others I have tried) seem to go quite obscure enough for me. i like pop / rock / indie but also experimenta…

I used to listen to bbc 6 music a lot. These days I listen to fip.fr it’s a French national radio, that pans all genres, and is very well curated. There is no ads, and very few people talking.

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Post by Marazan »

Pretty much every music recommendation service tells me that Turin Brakes are almost identical to Gomez and I, having ears, can tell they are not.

I'd love to know how they have come to this conclusions. Is it because there aren't many Gomez lovers in the dataset and the few that are also happen to like Turin Brakes thus skewing the recommendation?

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Post by [deleted] »

dieselgate wrote: post #74
roydivision wrote: post #64

I realised recently that most media recommenders don't work for me because they are based on genre. If you like The Watchmen film, you're sure to like Marvel films because they're also action, and based on comics. We see you listened to Pearl Jam a lot, you're going to get a kick out of Nirvana. That's just not how I work. I like _good_ stuff, I don't confine myself to genres, I'll go anywhere if it's half decent. I…

That's why "quality" radio can be so powerful: it's not uncommon for DJs to curate a set based on "songs with the same musician" or "original song and remakes/samples from the original" and the like. Not that it's guaranteed to be "good" stuff but at least unique and more memorable in my experience

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Re: Music-Map – Find Similar Music

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Post by d--b »

roydivision wrote: post #64

I realised recently that most media recommenders don't work for me because they are based on genre. If you like The Watchmen film, you're sure to like Marvel films because they're also action, and based on comics. We see you listened to Pearl Jam a lot, you're going to get a kick out of Nirvana. That's just not how I work. I like _good_ stuff, I don't confine myself to genres, I'll go anywhere if it's half decent. I…

Came here to say this exactly. I like Mac Miller and Kendrick Lamar, but as far as hip hop goes these are the only two artists I enjoy listening to.

In electronic music, I listen to Aphex Twin, which is pretty hardcord, but can’t really fathom anything else.

My tastes are really clear cut, but not around artist similarity.

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