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Re: Music-Map – Find Similar Music

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Post by thomastjeffery »

dumbo-octopus wrote: post #3

Cool concept and the UI is well executed. The results themselves were somewhat hit and miss for me - Purity Ring was a nice discovery related to Grimes, but the Lorde results were all somewhat "Eh". I wonder how an Album based version would fare - i.e. focus on Solar Power, not Melodrama.

I'm a huge fan of Purity Ring, and most of the artists I looked at seemed to a solid gathering of familiar neighbors. Unfortunately, that means this graph is pretty similar to the Spotify one I usually wander around. I'll definitely have to spend some more serious time with it, though.

I would recommend you listen to iamiwhoami, Crywolf, AWAY, Chrome Sparks, Of the Trees, Sam Gellaitry, Burial, James Blake (especially his early stuff), and SOPHIE; for a good variety of directions.

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Post by namtab00 »

LiquidPolymer wrote: post #7

I’ve been wanting something like this for a long time. My tastes are a little offbeat sometimes. Wax Tailor, one of my favorite artists, uses sampled dialogue from films, educational programs, corporate videos and whatnot to create quite interesting sonic creations that I just love. I wish more we’re creating similar types of music (I just found Biosphere’s “Petrified Forest” which is themed to that old movie - and a…

checkout the artist Bent, you might enjoy it

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Post by namtab00 »

at_a_remove wrote: post #18
LiquidPolymer wrote: post #7

I’ve been wanting something like this for a long time. My tastes are a little offbeat sometimes. Wax Tailor, one of my favorite artists, uses sampled dialogue from films, educational programs, corporate videos and whatnot to create quite interesting sonic creations that I just love. I wish more we’re creating similar types of music (I just found Biosphere’s “Petrified Forest” which is themed to that old movie - and a…

Hah! Are you my lost twin? I have tried various approaches to search for something to Wax Tailor's "Que Sera" and have found only Barry Adamson's "Something Wicked This Way Comes" (you will recall from Lost Highway ) and Venetian Snares' "Gloomy Sunday." If you have more that are similar, let me know.

Try Bent.

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Post by roydivision »

I realised recently that most media recommenders don't work for me because they are based on genre. If you like The Watchmen film, you're sure to like Marvel films because they're also action, and based on comics. We see you listened to Pearl Jam a lot, you're going to get a kick out of Nirvana.

That's just not how I work. I like _good_ stuff, I don't confine myself to genres, I'll go anywhere if it's half decent. I want a service that says hey, you listened to Benny Goodman's Sing Sing Sing, you should check out The Thirteenth Floor Elevators' first album.

The only recommendation that kinda works for me is based on an aggregation of what other people listened a lot to. Sure on small data sets that is probably going to be genre biased, but on large sets it can start working and break out of that.

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Post by karmakaze »

roydivision wrote: post #64

I realised recently that most media recommenders don't work for me because they are based on genre. If you like The Watchmen film, you're sure to like Marvel films because they're also action, and based on comics. We see you listened to Pearl Jam a lot, you're going to get a kick out of Nirvana. That's just not how I work. I like _good_ stuff, I don't confine myself to genres, I'll go anywhere if it's half decent. I…

I was about to say something similar, that associating by artist is too coarse. It should be at the song (or possibly album or artist+date) level.

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Post by Semaphor »

tern wrote: post #25

Wow! Music recommenders come up every once in awhile on HN and they're almost alway unusable for underground music. Aside from not recognizing some of the names I tried, this one does quite well. It just needs quick links to listen to examples and it'll already be more useful than Spotify, Apple Music or Last.fm. Some test cases I used: Logic1000, Tessela, Piezo, TSVI, Two Shell, Caterina Barbieri, Schacke, Amnesia S…

That would have to be a specialized genre tracker though, most of your suggestions would fall flat for metal, and even label would not always be helpful.

FWIW, the site does not work for my underground bands at all, out of 5 tries 3 didn’t show up at all (Remember Twilight, Der Rest, Jessica's Crime), and 1 (Scythia) has barely any related bands. Only "Die Streuner" got decent results. Some of the bands it’s missing even have wikipedia pages.

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Post by defrost »

jacquesm wrote: post #46
defrost wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No neighbouring of David Bowie with your (first) namesake either: https://www.music-map.com/jacques+brel the shortest path there is through le port d'Amsterdam On transliteration, https://www.music-map.com/jasper+van%27t+hof versus https://www.music-map.com/jasper+van+t%C2%B4hofs so there's a bit of jumble to work out in the data set - and neither of those seem to intersect https://www.music-map.com/angelique+kidjo w…

That's an absolutely amazing song. It is just incredible how much energy he pours into that. And Ramses Shaffy should be another easy link from Jacques Brel. Angelique Kidjo ... her rendering of 'Summertime' is forever in my memory, live during the African Music Festival in Delft. She and Salif Keita stood out from the 10's of acts that were there. You can't really describe the kind of power those two radiated. Off t…

I dare say you might just enjoy Buddy Guy and Angelique Kidjo belting out Voodoo Chile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN_K84TAxNs

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Post by MrThoughtful »

mcint wrote: post #23

Project by https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=mg All manually user-generated by people contributing https://www.gnoosic.com/ , then voting on other names suggested in the same neighborhood of the graph. It would be cool data to get access to. But it's a nice singleton in the mean time. Like Netflix's challenge dataset, it would be interesting to have another layer of associations to compare with more formal genre l…

Looks like mg noticed us:

https://twitter.com/marekgibney/status/1730500804920955269

Re: Music-Map – Find Similar Music

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Post by krylon »

It works in that on my two tests, most of the artists that came up are known to me and very often present in my music library.

I was kind of hoping to find stylistically similar music, but on second thought that would probably exponentially harder.

That being said, what the site says it does, it does well! <3

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Post by Slow_Hand »

wavemode wrote: post #57
solardev wrote: post #17

Back when humans still did work, the Music Genome Project had people listen to songs and try to break them down into little "genes" of metadata, everything from "vocal harmonies" to "minor chords" to "strong lyrical presence". It worked way better than the automated systems, IMO, and gave rise to Pandora: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_Genome_Project?wprov=sfl... I wish other music apps could license their recom…

In my personal experience I gave up on Pandora. It was regularly suggesting me music that wasn't at all similar to the song I started on. In fact it was consistently worse at finding me similar music than just plain Spotify radio (or playlist enhancer) and/or YouTube Music radio. Contrast Chosic (which is free) - its recommendations are configurable and usually hit the mark much better: https://www.chosic.com/playlis…

Haha, same. I used to work in a music equipment rental warehouse that was staffed by musicians and all day we would be curating and training our favorite Pandora stations. If a bad song came on the person closest to the computer would scan the warehouse to see how many of us were giving that song a thumbs-up or a thumbs-down and train the algorithm according to our votes.

The trouble was, despite our diligent training and curation of many Pandora stations, any station remotely related to rock would eventually converge on Morrissey. It got so bad that whenever a Morrissey song would play you could hear shouts of protest from across the warehouse and it would be immediately downvoted with extreme prejudice.

Nevertheless it would keep feeding us Morrissey so the joke among us became “All stations lead to Morrissey”.

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