A good article with a misleading name...
Then again, it doesn't mislead very far.
Code is run more than read
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Re: Code is run more than read
#52TIL of ≹, which "articulates a relationship where neither of the two compared entities is greater or lesser than the other, yet they aren't necessarily equal either. This nuanced distinction is essential in areas where there are different ways to compare entities that aren't strictly numerical." ( https://www.mathematics-monster.com/symbols/Neither-Greater-... )
Likewise, TIL. In your link however it states "Example 1: Numerical Context Let's consider two real numbers, a and b. If a is neither greater than nor less than b, but they aren't explicitly equal, the relationship is ≹" How can that be possible?
This doesn't really pass the small test for me either, but to play devils advocate:
Imagine you have 2 irrational numbers, and for some a priori reason you know they cannot be equal. You write a computer program to calculate them to arbitrary precision, but no matter how many digits you generate they are identical to that approximation. You know that there must be some point at which they diverge, with one being larger than the other, but you cannot determine when or by how much.
Re: Code is run more than read
#53For many of us, running our code 1 billion times will cost less than a few minutes of a developer's time. Hell, I could spend $200 for a month of server time on AWS and run a lot of my (web API) code 100 billion times. Optimizing for human readers is always better until you're working on something that proves itself to be too slow to be economical anymore.
In my experience, you need to care about latency. That affects user experience. It's quite hard to pay for better latency.
That depends on the application and the use case, but good performance and good readability aren't mutually exclusive. Easy to read software might not always be the most performant, but it's far easier to improve performance in an easy to read codebase than it is to make a hard to read but performant codebase easier to read.
Re: Code is run more than read
#54Because we as programmers need to know how to progam: learning trumps all. Thus: learning > biz > user > ops > maintainer > author There was that bit dev > * meaning resume-driven development, but in reality it is learning > * And that's the conflict programmers experience in corporate structures, for example the hassle programmers experience when they interview for a position. Employers know it too but they try to s…
This is why blindly turning folks loose with AI is scary. They don't know what they don't know.
Re: Code is run more than read
#55biz > user
This one sounds like there is only the HN reality of dev : startups, VC, growth hacking, free until is not, client=product, burn every $ to reach monopoly,...
But, there is another one with small businesses, craftsmanship, get what you pay, client=client...
Re: Code is run more than read
#56Hey, author, if you end up reading this thread: put the conclusion on a sticker. I'll put one on my laptop and give a bunch to friends.
For anyone that didn't make it to the end, the conclusion was:
user > ops > dev
biz > ops > dev
biz ≹ userRe: Code is run more than read
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
In my experience, you need to care about latency. That affects user experience. It's quite hard to pay for better latency.
That depends on the application and the use case, but good performance and good readability aren't mutually exclusive. Easy to read software might not always be the most performant, but it's far easier to improve performance in an easy to read codebase than it is to make a hard to read but performant codebase easier to read.
Yeah, that's right. I just feel that latency is sometimes missing from the discussions re. developer efficiency vs paying more for compute.
Re: Code is run more than read
#58Re: Code is run more than read
#59TIL of ≹, which "articulates a relationship where neither of the two compared entities is greater or lesser than the other, yet they aren't necessarily equal either. This nuanced distinction is essential in areas where there are different ways to compare entities that aren't strictly numerical." ( https://www.mathematics-monster.com/symbols/Neither-Greater-... )
Likewise, TIL. In your link however it states "Example 1: Numerical Context Let's consider two real numbers, a and b. If a is neither greater than nor less than b, but they aren't explicitly equal, the relationship is ≹" How can that be possible?
Think how any number on the z axis of complex plain isn't equal to the a number of same magnitude, on x and y axis.
Now if you really think about, a number of a given magnitude on x axis also isn't exactly "equal" to a name of same magnitude on y axis or vice versa. Other wise, -5 and 5 should be equal, because they're the same magnitude from 0.
Re: Code is run more than read
#60Hey, author, if you end up reading this thread: put the conclusion on a sticker. I'll put one on my laptop and give a bunch to friends. For anyone that didn't make it to the end, the conclusion was: user > ops > dev biz > ops > dev biz ≹ user
In the long run user > biz, otherwise users will be using a product of a different biz via the enshittification cycle.