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Anduril announces Roadrunner, jet-powered VTOL drone

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Re: Anduril announces Roadrunner, jet-powered VTOL drone

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post #20

why not just detach the warhead and save the drone?

Too complicated.

My understanding is that you have an defensive area with ~20 of the hangers scattered around.

  1. !!Incoming threat!!
  2. LAUNCH ALL THE DRONES,
  3. One intercepts,
  4. Other loiter a while in case of additional threats,
  5. Remaining drones return to base.
Get the operational advantage of having many vehicles in the air, all controllable by one operator, but you recover those not used.

Re: Anduril announces Roadrunner, jet-powered VTOL drone

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Palmer Luckey was the founder of Oculus VR

Very cool aesthetic - https://nitter.net/pic/orig/media%2FGAPMRBva0AAiF0l.jpg

Cost claim - low hundreds of thousands of dollars (I find it unlikely it'll be this low, we'll see if they can pull it off)

Not sure I see the point of landing suicide drones at such a low price point.

Re: Anduril announces Roadrunner, jet-powered VTOL drone

#24
So the emergency services use-cases seem obvious and straightforward, but rare. Can't be that big of a market for that, at least for repeat customers. Maybe I'm missing something, but I'd figure that those emergency services organizations would buy 2-3 and keep one in the field and the balance in inventory.

The armed HE variant, that one does not seem that straightforward to me because I don't quite see how this is better than a small missile. Is the benefit loitering? Because a larger drone can carry several armed payloads, and loiter for much longer. Is the benefit detection? Maybe that's it, given its size. Is the benefit autonomous deployment? That probably is pretty useful. Very curious who the government customer is (JSOC?).

Anyway, very cool and slick looking engineering.

Edit: Luckey with some additional comments[1]. "[I]ncreases the operator’s engagement decision space" is I think maybe the key thing here, now that I think about it. The battlefield today is saturated with sensors, so giving the operator just an extra bit of time to understand the data probably is a key innovation for drone warfare.

>Roadrunner-M's performance capacity is far superior than competing air defense solutions and is already an overmatch capability against current and emerging threats. Its employment methodology significantly increases the operator’s engagement decision space which is critically constrained with current capabilities.

>Roadrunner-M innovations include faster launch and take-off timing, three times the warhead payload capacity, ten times the one way effective range, and is three times more maneuverable in G force, compared to similar offerings on the market. A single operator can launch and supervise multiple Roadrunner or Roadrunner-M squadrons.

>Roadrunner-M can be controlled by Lattice, Anduril’s AI-powered software suite for command and control, or be fully integrated into existing air defense radars, sensors, and architectures to provide immediately deployable capability."

[1] https://x.com/PalmerLuckey/status/1730466711412052138

Re: Anduril announces Roadrunner, jet-powered VTOL drone

#28
post #20

why not just detach the warhead and save the drone?

The detachment mechanism adds significant complexity, weight and costs.

And the result is much less accurate, and the warhead is smaller. Instead of actively flying the warhead as close to the target as possible, the drone now needs to calculate the optimal detachment point and hope the warhead ends up at the right place for an intercept. This detachment point needs to be at least several seconds before intercept to give the drone enough time to get out of the blast radius, so if the target is actively evading, any hope of hitting it is basically zero.

As long as the drone is cheap enough, this is the superior solution for the widest range of viable targets.

Maybe if you are going up against lots of really simple drones with zero evasion capabilities and no armour, it might make sense to to even simpler and swap the warhead module out for a what is essentially a large single-shot shotgun, but that's going to have significantly less power.

Re: Anduril announces Roadrunner, jet-powered VTOL drone

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Palmer Luckey was the founder of Oculus VR Very cool aesthetic - https://nitter.net/pic/orig/media%2FGAPMRBva0AAiF0l.jpg Cost claim - low hundreds of thousands of dollars (I find it unlikely it'll be this low, we'll see if they can pull it off) Not sure I see the point of landing suicide drones at such a low price point.

The point appears to be the kinetic interceptor suicide only happens a small fraction of the time. Most usage would be the reuse case.

> Roadrunner-M is a high-explosive interceptor variant of Roadrunner built for ground-based air defense that can rapidly launch, identify, intercept, and destroy a wide variety of aerial threats — or be safely recovered and relaunched at near-zero cost.

(key word is the "or")

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