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Re: Music-Map – Find Similar Music

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Post by jacquesm »

autoexec wrote: post #24
SushiHippie wrote: post #9

My problem is that I like a song from one artist but not his other songs, because that one song is different than the others. I kind of hoped this site maps songs and not artists :/

There are bands that change their sound so much from one song/album to the next that this is sure to be hit and miss for a lot of artists.

Everything but the girl is one of those. Every time they'd ship a new album I'd run out and buy it only to think 'bleh'. But four weeks later after it had grown on me I'd usually consider it their best work. So much for consistency :)

Re: Music-Map – Find Similar Music

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Post by defrost »

jacquesm wrote: post #38

First artist I tried failed: Øystein Sevåg, also not in transliteration. David Benoit fared a lot better, Neneh Cherry matched Carmel(?) but not Youssou N'Dour with whom she had her most popular song. Interesting concept though I will definitely be playing around with it. Edit: long ago I did something like this but based on the individual band members so that you could trace them as they moved through their career,…

No neighbouring of David Bowie with your (first) namesake either:

https://www.music-map.com/jacques+brel

the shortest path there is through le port d'Amsterdam

On transliteration,

https://www.music-map.com/jasper+van%27t+hof

versus

https://www.music-map.com/jasper+van+t%C2%B4hofs

so there's a bit of jumble to work out in the data set - and neither of those seem to intersect

https://www.music-map.com/angelique+kidjo

which they should for their early collaboration - although Youssou N'Dour turns up near Angelique.

Re: Music-Map – Find Similar Music

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Post by jacquesm »

defrost wrote: post #13
LiquidPolymer wrote: post #10

Whenever I’ve had Peter Gabriel in a playlist I automatically get a lot of Genesis (Phil Collins era) mixed in. I’m aware PG was a founding member of Genesis, but when they split so did the music. They just aren’t similar in my mind. On this map they are right next to each other. Maybe the problem is me?

Are you seeing much of Kate Bush, Laurie Anderson, Ladysmith Black Mambazo, Papa Wembe and other co-performers in the adjacency map?

Kate Bush Maggie Reilly Mike Oldfield would be good links, but she's not even on the page and Mike Oldfield doesn't show up on Reilly's page either.

Re: Music-Map – Find Similar Music

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Post by Hamuko »

jacquesm wrote: post #39
Hamuko wrote: post #37

This website has fallen in the exact same "artist names are unique" trap that Last.fm did, making every single name that's used by two or more performers completely useless. There's also no name normalisation. I got a result where I saw at least five duplicated artist names because people can't agree on how to spell them.

I can see a 'programmers fallacies about artist names' article soon.

https://dustri.org/b/horrible-edge-cases-to-consider-when-de...

Re: Music-Map – Find Similar Music

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Post by jacquesm »

defrost wrote: post #42
jacquesm wrote: post #38

First artist I tried failed: Øystein Sevåg, also not in transliteration. David Benoit fared a lot better, Neneh Cherry matched Carmel(?) but not Youssou N'Dour with whom she had her most popular song. Interesting concept though I will definitely be playing around with it. Edit: long ago I did something like this but based on the individual band members so that you could trace them as they moved through their career,…

No neighbouring of David Bowie with your (first) namesake either: https://www.music-map.com/jacques+brel the shortest path there is through le port d'Amsterdam On transliteration, https://www.music-map.com/jasper+van%27t+hof versus https://www.music-map.com/jasper+van+t%C2%B4hofs so there's a bit of jumble to work out in the data set - and neither of those seem to intersect https://www.music-map.com/angelique+kidjo w…

That's an absolutely amazing song. It is just incredible how much energy he pours into that. And Ramses Shaffy should be another easy link from Jacques Brel.

Angelique Kidjo ... her rendering of 'Summertime' is forever in my memory, live during the African Music Festival in Delft. She and Salif Keita stood out from the 10's of acts that were there.

You can't really describe the kind of power those two radiated. Off the scale in every sense.

Re: Music-Map – Find Similar Music

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Post by autoexec »

slmjkdbtl wrote: post #4

Tried 3, one gives me unrelated results, one good results, and one doesn't exist. Still very useful, but I hope the text won't float around which makes it hard to click, vertical list would be great.

I had good results with selecting all and then pasting into a text file. Not sure if the things at the top of the list ended up being "closer" or not, but at least I had a simple list of names to check out.

Re: Music-Map – Find Similar Music

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Post by an_aparallel »

tern wrote: post #25

Wow! Music recommenders come up every once in awhile on HN and they're almost alway unusable for underground music. Aside from not recognizing some of the names I tried, this one does quite well. It just needs quick links to listen to examples and it'll already be more useful than Spotify, Apple Music or Last.fm. Some test cases I used: Logic1000, Tessela, Piezo, TSVI, Two Shell, Caterina Barbieri, Schacke, Amnesia S…

could this be as simple as...a python script which takes an artist - using python discogs_client and just scours every label mate of that artist and feeds itt to you - made more intelligent with acoustic fingerprinting...and a tiny bit of human intervention? :)

Re: Music-Map – Find Similar Music

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Post by handy2000 »

solardev wrote: post #17

Back when humans still did work, the Music Genome Project had people listen to songs and try to break them down into little "genes" of metadata, everything from "vocal harmonies" to "minor chords" to "strong lyrical presence". It worked way better than the automated systems, IMO, and gave rise to Pandora: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_Genome_Project?wprov=sfl... I wish other music apps could license their recom…

Pandora still gives the best recommendations. I doubt the Music Genome Project will be matched by a purely computation analysis any time soon.

Re: Music-Map – Find Similar Music

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Post by p1esk »

It is pretty bad for classical composers - groups together completely unrelated, very different people: I typed Monteverdi and the closest neighbors shown are Scriabin, Britten, Poulenc, Faure, Schubert. It does not make any sense.
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