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Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Well this is sticking your head in the sand about it. People own trucks because while trucks might not be particularly good at some things, they're also not particularly bad at them. If you need to move large or heavy items occasionally, it's really handy having a truck...and the thing is, it won't be bad at doing car things either. To the specific example here, you also have the obvious missing part: people are havi…

Most Pickup Truck Owners Don’t Actually Do Any Truck Stuff. > Only 7.0% of truck buyers frequently use their trucks to tow. About 2% of people use their trucks to tow occasionally, while 63% of owners rarely or never tow. > But at least 28% of owners frequently use their trucks for personal hauling, while 47% of owners occasionally haul. Nearly 32% of owners rarely or never haul personal items. https://www.motorbiscu…

The numbers are interesting:

> Only 7.0% of truck buyers frequently use their trucks to tow. About 2% of people use their trucks to tow occasionally, while 63% of owners rarely or never tow.

So that's 72% not 100%.

> But at least 28% of owners frequently use their trucks for personal hauling, while 47% of owners occasionally haul. Nearly 32% of owners rarely or never haul personal items.

That accounts for 107% of truck owners.

The rest of the numbers seem to add up well enough though. Not sure if maybe I'm missing something or the author is.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Faster quarter mile drag speed than a Porsche 911 _while also towing a 911_ That's incredible marketing. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1730331223992472029

It was done for the Rivian R1T first, in March of 2022: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acSdPy38XKU&pp=ygUScjF0IHRvd...

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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> * Easy enough any automaker can do it if they choose* Ahh, no. The Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat with 707 horsepower runs a 11.4 [1] That is the very definition of a car built to go fast in a straight line. Massive engine, supercharger, massive rear tires, and it's slower than the Cybertruck. > Lots of trucks aren't actually bad at it Please show me a truck that gets even remotely close to a sub 11 quarter mile. Heck,…

Hellcats are built to go fast in a straight line with the limitations of a 20+ year old platform. Beating a vehicle Dodge spent about $20 developing in a shed with a giant pushrod engine and hand-me-down parts they got from 90s Mercedes Benz isn't that big an accomplishment. Going fast in a straight line is easy for electric motors, so it's just not that impressive. It's like a native speaker enrolling in language 10…

> F-150 Raptor R does a 12.1 quarter mile. That's pretty close to running 11s.

There is a very, very large difference between 12.1s and sub 11s.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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I simply can't connect with Cybertruck for some reason. It feels like everything a truck should not be.

Take the wonderful off-road footage they showed. How did they handle charging? Did they tow a bunch of Cybertrucks to the site, get them town to where they just had enough power to get back on the flatbed an then tow them back?

Having driven trucks in the middle of nowhere, well, charging is very important. You can carry a couple of ten or twenty gallon cans in the back and get hundreds of miles of additional range.

There are thousands of products designed to "interface" with standard trucks. Not sure how that ecosystem applies to Cybertruck.

Beyond this, the stainless body is interesting. However, repairs of any kind are going to be massively expensive. My guess is full panels will have to be replaced. In general terms, a quick look at reports of repairs for these types of vehicles can be seriously expensive.

Finally, unlike a conventional truck, if you own one of these you will, at some point in time, experience the decidedly non-trivial cost of having to replace the battery. The terminal cost of conventional trucks approaches an asymptote in the low thousands of dollars. With Cybertruck that number will be in the mid tens of thousands. Today, replacing a batter on a Tesla car can cost as much as $25K.

If the purchase of a Cybertruck is because it looks good, different, unique, etc. Then, sure, why not, it isn't different from buying an expensive Italian sports car. As a practical working truck, not sure.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Faster quarter mile drag speed than a Porsche 911 _while also towing a 911_ That's incredible marketing. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1730331223992472029

The 911 Turbo S has a 0-60 time of 2.6 seconds, but Car and Driver clocked it at 2.2. Its quarter-mile time is 10.1 seconds. https://www.caranddriver.com/porsche/911-turbo-turbo-s I don't know what's going on with that video. If we take Tesla's numbers at face value, which I definitely don't given their history, the 911 Turbo S is dramatically faster on the straights. Is Tesla claiming that the Cybertruck gets faster…

I’m like 90% sure it’s a Carerra T. Satin black Carrera S wheels and no red calipers. It’s definitely not a Turbo or Turbo S cause there’s no side intakes.

Also definitely looks like the car dips briefly meaning it’s likely a manual, and the Carerra T only comes in manual.

Porsche rated 4.3s 0-60mph.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Holy mother of dark patterns! The default tab in the table is the “PROBABLE SAVINGS*” tab instead of the actual prices. (There’s actually no actual price, just estimates.) Besides, does anybody believe their estimated prices for “available in 2025”? * From the same trusted salesman who sold robotaxies making $30k/year!

From the guy who predicted COVID would be over in two weeks. I don't think you can trust his predictions. He doesn't have a great record with that.

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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Not just you. Anyone who uses a truck a lot will have a 150+ --- How many programmers do you see with MacBook Airs

M1 MacBook Airs are solid and it's my daily driver as a programmer. But I also drive an F350 King Ranch Super Duty (I tow a 20k pound fifth wheel with it that I live in full time) so go figure.

Damn

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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There's even a "dark pattern" with the quoted 0-60 times. They've subtracted the rollout only on the fastest model to make the gap between it and the mid-spec model appear larger (notice the asterisk only on the top spec car's 0-60 time). Not the first time they've done this either, they've done the same thing with the Plaid Model S specs before. I don't really care about the debate over whether subtracting rollout i…

They do it on the Model 3 as well. The Model 3 Performance is 1Ft rollout (3.1s) but the Dual Motor Long Range is not. Car and driver tested it to 3.99 when Tesla says ~4.2s

At least the lying is in the slow direction rather than the fast direction.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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post #577

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From the guy who predicted COVID would be over in two weeks. I don't think you can trust his predictions. He doesn't have a great record with that.

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LOL. I should never underestimate the ingenuity of his fans.
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