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Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by giobox »

lttlrck wrote: post #261
m463 wrote: post #205

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Hmmm.. I would guess decoupling would allow variable ratio steering based on speed or preferences.

Electric power assist already allows that. It's probably cheaper, lighter and maybe safer to have no steering column.

They almost always only vary the amount of power assistance, not the ratio. The ratio is fixed on virtually all electrically power assisted steering racks ever shipped. There is still a fixed mechanical linkage - decoupling this is what allows the ratio to be dynamically adjusted. To date only a handful of Lexus production cars have had dynamic variable ratio and decoupled steering via drive by wire.

Electric power steering is essentially the same in use as traditional hydraulic systems - they just replace the hydraulic assistance with electric motors.

The big advantage of decoupling and steer by wire is dynamic variable ratio, as well as packaging - no steering column to worry about making space for.

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Post by airstrike »

agnosticmantis wrote: post #518

Holy mother of dark patterns! The default tab in the table is the “PROBABLE SAVINGS*” tab instead of the actual prices. (There’s actually no actual price, just estimates.) Besides, does anybody believe their estimated prices for “available in 2025”? * From the same trusted salesman who sold robotaxies making $30k/year!

just select the "Purchase price" tab at the top? not every marketing gimmick is a dark pattern

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Post by vel0city »

nosequel wrote: post #92

I would like to know the range when towing 11,000 lbs. In the full size market, I can only think of the Nissan Titan as having less than 12,000 lb tow rating. A base Ford F150 has a 14,000 rating. When you move up to diesels, you can easily tow 20,000+ lbs and even at 10,000 lbs you take very little hit on range if your load is somewhat aerodynamic. Pulling a full-size Airstream you can still get 20+mpg even in a sma…

Range hit from towing in an EV largely a factor of air resistance. Maxing out the weight with a small trailer is often less of a range hit than having a large but mostly empty trailer. Adding a lot of weight will cause some impact from rolling resistance but most of the extra energy use towing is aero drag.

For reference there's almost no range hit for maxing out the bed payload on a Lightning.

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Post by [deleted] »

wnevets wrote: post #71
idlewords wrote: post #55

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You can get a 500 mile range by towing a second, fully charged Cybertruck and switching them at mile 250.

Wouldn't the first truck's range be significantly reduced by the additional weight? The second truck will have to tow a third fully charged truck to get us to 500 miles.

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Post by saalweachter »

neogodless wrote: post #123
dymk wrote: post #102

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> Literally every full size pick-up truck defaults to a 6-6.5' foot bed size. Nope > Some offer 8' beds but it's relatively rare in practice. Also nope

https://www.jdpower.com/cars/shopping-guides/short-bed-vs-lo... > The standard bed of a pickup truck is typically 6'5" long (So... yup.) I can't find statistics on sales, but I rarely see trucks with 8' beds. Sure there are people that buy regular cab, 8' beds, and even some serious professionals that get an HD crew cab with the 8' bed (which is a monstrously long truck!) But in general that is not what I see. Thus..…

> which is a monstrously long truck!

And then they park in the trailer parking spots, grumble grumble grumble.

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Post by [deleted] »

shrubble wrote: post #143
siquick wrote: post #28

> With the ability to pull near infinite mass and a towing capability of over 14,000 pounds, Cybertruck can perform in almost any extreme situation with ease. This is direct quote from the Tesla site from 3 weeks ago. It’s now 11,000lbs on the linked page. More Musk bullshittery.

It can pull infinite mass. Just not all at once!

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Post by esaym »

FireBeyond wrote: post #379
esaym wrote: post #82

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Towing is complicated. Here is an F-350 at full throttle in second gear barely making it through mountains: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoHDQ4SKpBI

That's an idiot kid who thinks that flooring it while towing several tons up a 12% grade is even safe, let alone wise.

Yes that is the point.

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Post by acdha »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #273
cmac2992 wrote: post #254

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Especially most trucks

> Especially most trucks I'd argue not. Many trucks are driven by folks in the trades. If I were to guess, I'd put my money on SUVs having the largest fraction of users who rarely if ever push the vehicle to its limits. That or sports cars.

I’d have agreed around the turn of the century but it’s really hard to believe that’s driving the current sales boom. I see new trucks all the time - as part of the morning commute, loaded with frills which wouldn’t hold up in a work environment, and in pristine condition. The actual tradesmen are driving vans and older trucks because those cost half as much. There’s a huge construction sight near me, and the actual workers are arriving on bike, bus, or carpool in a sedan – except for two fancy trucks parked near the foreman’s office, which are pristine (not even mud) and always parked in the same spot morning, lunch, or afternoon.

Now, I live in a city so I’d discount that except that we’ve spent a lot of time driving through rural areas (my son loves railroads) and the same trend holds there, although less intense. You see the pretty rancher cosplay trucks in the rich exurbs, and then when you cross into actual farm or mining country you see a lot fewer of the $70+k new ones and more beat up old trucks which are clearly heavily used, and almost 90s levels of smaller cars because they’re so much cheaper.

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