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You do need a technical co-founder [video]

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Re: You do need a technical co-founder [video]

#21

Yeah and then the non-technical co-founder treats you like you're worthless because you're "just a programmer"

A tale as old as time. Gotta love the classic spin on the same trope of “the C suite drives the sales tho” to justify their insane salaries and bonuses. like they’d have anything to sell in the first place.

Yes, you need to make and sell things. They're both difficult.

Re: You do need a technical co-founder [video]

#22
post #15

Yeah and then the non-technical co-founder treats you like you're worthless because you're "just a programmer"

That may be more of a personality conflict. There's no more important choice than who you co-found with, and both parties should have high regard for each other's value to the business.

Of course that’s how it _should_ be. After working at enough startups in very early and/or founder roles, I can tell you it’s more common than not to get treated like a second class citizen when the “business” dinners come.

Re: You do need a technical co-founder [video]

#23
post #20

Yeah and then the non-technical co-founder treats you like you're worthless because you're "just a programmer"

Might I suggest not being "just a programmer" then? In a startup it's extremely important for founders to wear many hats and share many burdens. If you're the person that just goes off into a cave and emerges with beautiful code 6 weeks later and then expects everything to be great - you're wrong. There's a massive amount of foundational work to do to support a startup that technical people don't even think about.

As someone who's rarely been "just a programmer" or "just a designer," that hasn't stopped me from being viewed as such by managers if it's convenient for them to mentally classify me as such.

Re: You do need a technical co-founder [video]

#24
post #7

I wonder what portion of Hacker News users aren't technical. I thought this headline meant a technical founder needs a technical co-founder even.

Judging by how many believe procedural text generators are viable programmers, i’d say a lot of hn users arent technical.

I'd venture to say the majority are non technical

Re: You do need a technical co-founder [video]

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Might I suggest not being "just a programmer" then? In a startup it's extremely important for founders to wear many hats and share many burdens. If you're the person that just goes off into a cave and emerges with beautiful code 6 weeks later and then expects everything to be great - you're wrong. There's a massive amount of foundational work to do to support a startup that technical people don't even think about.

As someone who's rarely been "just a programmer" or "just a designer," that hasn't stopped me from being viewed as such by managers if it's convenient for them to mentally classify me as such.

Your cofounder in a new startup isn't your manager.

Re: You do need a technical co-founder [video]

#28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A tale as old as time. Gotta love the classic spin on the same trope of “the C suite drives the sales tho” to justify their insane salaries and bonuses. like they’d have anything to sell in the first place.

Yes, you need to make and sell things. They're both difficult.

I’m not diminishing the effort and skill necessary to be a good salesperson. I am, however, commenting on how often that turns into engineers being kept “in the back” when the paperwork starts.

Re: You do need a technical co-founder [video]

#29
Having started a small business I respect greatly the skills of great sales people and fund raisers and people who are great with people. But I don't respect them when they think they can start a business where they don't take what they actually make seriously and think the product will just work its self out if they sell hard enough.

Re: You do need a technical co-founder [video]

#30
The original title on this (which was there when I started this post) was infuriating - but it is still bad. Is it speaking to the 'true' co-founder who is above the technical one? Maybe the other co-founder who is an 'idea innovator' could up-skill a little and stop pretending that you can build a business by putting on a power suit and making presentations with upturned hands and studied pauses?
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