You know, if you have to say that, it's probably not zero.
Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board
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Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board
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His mission is super alignment So out of all the companies, possibly only Google can provide a model to him right now to do the alignment work
Google recently cut down the safety team[1] [1]: https://www.ft.com/content/26372287-6fb3-457b-9e9c-f722027f3...
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Gonna be hilarious when AGI turns out to be analagous to like a sassy 8 year old or something? Like "AGI, do all this random shit for me!" AGI: No! i don't wanna!
That's a premise of sci-fi "novel" Golem XIV from Stanislaw Lem: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golem_XIV
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> Ilya is the one irreplaceable employee there, not Sam Why do you think he is not replaceable?
He is the master wizard -- no ones knows the tech details and subtle tweaks like him. At least that is what I gather.
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That's a premise of sci-fi "novel" Golem XIV from Stanislaw Lem: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golem_XIV
Where can one read the English for that?
https://archive.org/details/imaginarymagnitu00lems
for purchase:
https://www.kobo.com/ww/en/ebook/imaginary-magnitude-1
and via some zlib proxy if you're going full pirate.
Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board
#607How do I have to understand the fact that Ilya is not on the board anymore AND why did the statement not include Ilya in the “Leadership group” that’s called out?
As Sam said they are still trying to work out how they are going to work together. He may be in the leadership team once those discussions have concluded
Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board
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I think this is probably the source of the whole debacle right here... Sam is pretty self righteous and self important and just seems to lack some subtle piece of social awareness, and I imagine that turns a lot of people off. That delusional optimism is probably the key to his financial success, too, in terms of having a propensity for taking risk.
Agreed. I think one of the biggest questions on a lot of A.I. Safety people's minds now is whether Sam's optimism includes techno-optimism. In particular, people on twitter are speculating about whether Sam is, at heart, an e/acc, which is a new term that means Effective Accelerationism. Its use originally started as a semi-humorous dig at E.A. (Effective Altruism) but has started to pick up steam as a major philosop…
”What if we write a computer virus that deletes all life” is a good question as you can approach from engineering feasibility perspective.
”What if someone creates a sentient AI” is not reasonable fear. At current state of the art. It’s like fearing Jaquard looms in the 19th century because someone could use them for ”something bad”. Yes - computers eventually facilitated nuclear bombs. But also lots of good stuff.
I’m not saying we can create ’sentient program’ one day. But currently we can’t quantify what sentience is. I don’t think there is any engineering capability to conclude that advanced chatbots called LLM:s, despite how amazing they are, will reach godhood anytime soon.
Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board
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> You can work on and compile Linux on a home PC, even more the case with their other projects. Try training GPT-4 on a home PC. Sam Altman was happy to join the venture and lead OpenAI knowing that it was the non-profit AI research company from the beginning. As a CEO, he was supposed to lead the company as it was created. As a result of his management, the company first ceased to be open, then in fact non-profit, t…
The company was supposed to be funded by Elon who pledged a billion. Then he bailed when his coup failed. Sam Altman had to find a sponsor, or have the company go bankrupt in a matter of weeks. What's hard to comprehend here? As for the models topping your Hugging Face chart, they're literally all funded (by the billion ) by private enterprises and the US govt. It's baffling to me how this is supposed to be an argume…
The OpenAI company, that was supposed to be non-profit open research think lab, has been taking investments of dozens of millions from different funds, while producing highest quality research material for the public good. Up to the point when the CEO sold it for Microsoft's $1B deal that solved their infra & GPU resource problems for… completely locking the company as an unofficial division of Microsoft Research. This deal, essentially, entirely distorted the raison d'être of the non-profit company, closed the "open research" part, and made it a for-profit extension for MS/Bing services.
Here, perspectives fork in two ways: either you believe it's a great development that you can benefit of by using closed paid OpenAI/Microsoft commercial services, OR you believe that metamorphosis of the leading open AI research shop into it's exact antipode is embodiment of disappointment. From your boorish, superficial remarks, I can see which side you are on.
I don't care if Sam Altman took money from Microsoft, or Sam Bankman-Fried (before he was charged), or US govt — that entirely misses the point. I do care that Sam Altman orchestrated a complete relegation of the research lab to an overpowered for-profit "Clippy" assistant for a single huge corporation, depriving us from the open research. He had to work on attracting investments from several corporations and other entities to avoid centralisation of control. But we see that he acted according to his own personal agenda, not in the interests of the company's charter. In that perspective, I don't give a damn if he could have raised a billion or not as a non-profit company. I'd rather it was $300-500M that would have kept the company open than a $1B and what we have today. I'd rather the company didn't survive this crisis than what we have today.
I gave you the benchmarking of other LLM models that are several months (up to a year) behind GPT4 in performance development. I don't care if they are founded by megacorps or not, if they do what non-profit "Open" AI no more does, i.e. publishing open research and supplying us open models. Comprehend? Your argument of "if it weren't for Microsoft OpenAI wouldn't exist" is irrelevant, if OAI no longer produces open research that it supposed to; it better wouldn't otherwise. Let others for-profit multi-billion corps take over, if we can't have better.
To further refute your $MSFT shill demagoguery, narrowly focused on compute accelerators, I'll add that Abu Dhabi's TTI (UAE gov money for academia) has produced and released open model Falcon 180B, while French nonprofit research lab Kyutai has just raised €330M. In Europe, for a minute, not even SV! Apparently, funding open research is possible? Q.E.D. I'd rather Ilya and Andrej move to this lab than peddling "Laundry buddy" GPT Bing API tokens BS disgrace, but it's up to them.
And you can stay in your delusions where only OpenAI+Microsoft is capable of leading AI research, lead by an ego inflated CEO. Don't forget to scan your eye pupils for $worldcoin.
Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board
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He is obviously a great leader and those that work there wanted to work with him. It’s very clear in this thread how undervalued exceptional leadership actually is, as evidence by comments thinking the top role in the most innovative company could be just plug-and-play.
This comment made me look for a recent article about Paul Graham firing him from Ycombinator for being exactly not a great leader or trustworthy person. The article was just days ago but it’s eluding my search.
Didnt PGs wife invest/donate to Open AI?