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Henry Kissinger Has Died

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Post by boppo1 »

leobg wrote: post #395
Gud wrote: post #370

I am reminded of Hunter S Thompsons euology for Nixon. Good Riddance! Should have died in jail. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1994/07/he-was-...

Wow. What a refreshing directness: > He was a swine of a man and a jabbering dupe of a president. Nixon was so crooked that he needed servants to help him screw his pants on every morning. Even his funeral was illegal. He was queer in the deepest way. His body should have been burned in a trash bin. How come they could publish this without getting sued into oblivion?

A. Different times. B. Hunter was a bit of a hack who was not taken seriously. His work is just a couple notches above mad magazine. It is entertaining satire that is obviously without connection to reality.

I say this as a big fan of his work; but it is not to be taken seriously.

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Post by skrebbel »

ilkke wrote: post #449
skrebbel wrote: post #407

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The rest of the west is allied with the US because they’re the least evil guys, not because they’re the good guys. I’m Dutch and knowing that the US has a constant threat of extreme violence against us written into their law scares the crap out of me. We’re supposed to be happy jolly NATO allies but srsly that shit is not cool.

Least evil by what metric?

Liberty, rule of law etc. For all its shortcomings, the US-dominated part of the world has more of that than the rest.

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Post by hilux »

seanhunter wrote: post #271
imgabe wrote: post #196

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Reading through the descriptions of the episodes of this podcast it seems a lot like they start with a conclusion and then confirmation bias themselves (and everyone else who already agrees with them). Maybe not the most objective source.

You're expecting a podcast titled "Behind the Bastards" to be an objective source?

I listened to it once based on some redditor's enthusiastic recommendation, and it was as bad (i.e. blatantly unapologetically biased) as you might expect.

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Post by aniforprez »

animal_spirits wrote: post #368
aniforprez wrote: post #359

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I'm sorry but not every person needs "counter programming". Kissinger was a war criminal and we don't need a "balanced take" of a monster

Nuanced and unbiased conversation is much needed in this world, and having multiple viewpoints from people with different biases helps us all.

What "nuance and unbiased conversation". Forgive me for not giving an inch to someone who watched as millions were murdered by bombs. A factual retelling of the man's "achievements" should make any sane person cringe with disbelief that he lived to be a hundred and wasn't jailed. There's a time and place for multiple viewpoints and this is not it. Sometimes "the other side" really has no place

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Post by hilux »

nameless_me wrote: post #304
rmason wrote: post #239

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The crowd here might find it preposterous but Kissinger dated models and movie stars. One that I remember was the actress Jill St. John who was a Bond girl in the movie Diamonds are forever. The two dated for a couple of years. Miss St. John also dated Michael Caine, Sean Connery, David Frost and Tom Selleck.

Proving once again an ugly man can get the ladies if they have compensating traits.

Well, he did say that "power is the ultimate aphrodisiac."

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Post by Obscurity4340 »

weinzierl wrote: post #452
Obscurity4340 wrote: post #417

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Henry is such a strange name for a child. It just doesn't make sense to me. Henry is like an adult name :/

His birth name was "Heinz Alfred" but I don't know if that makes it any better.

Just makes me think of ketchup and alfredo

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Post by mywacaday »

Metacelsus wrote: post #133

From the obituary in the New York Times: "Michael T. Kaufman, a former correspondent and editor for The Times who died in 2010, contributed reporting." So, Kissinger outlived the guy who wrote his obituary!

Out of curiosity I asked ChatGpt 4 to write an obituary for him and it refused as it would insensitive or disrespectful. I told it he had passed away, it checked the internet and wrote the obituary. The power of ChatGPT continues to amaze me.
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