Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board

Post by imp0cat » Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 7:16 AM UTC

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For serious work, you don't have a choice though, the competition isn't there

I depends on what we mean when we say “serious work” but from an European enterprise perspective you would not use OpenAI for “serious work”, you would use Microsoft products. Co-pilot is already much more refined in terms of business value than the various OpenAI products. If you’ve never worked in a massive organisation you probably wouldn’t believe the amount of efficiency it’s added to meetings by being able to m…

  > you probably wouldn’t believe the amount of efficiency it’s added to meetings by being able to make readable PowerPoints or useful summaries by recoding a meeting

Post by justinclift » Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 7:19 AM UTC

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It's a non-profit. It should have no value aside from the mission. The only reason the employees mobilized in their whining and support of a person, whose only skills seems to be raising money and cult of personality, seems to be so that Altman can complete the Trojan horse of the non-profit by getting rid of it now that it has completed the side quest of attracting investors and customers.

> value aside from the mission. And you believe they could’ve achieved their mission with almost zero employees and presumably the board (well… who else?) having to do all the work themselves? > non-profit by getting rid of it So the solution of the board was to get rid of both the non-profit and for profit parts of the company?

Post by upghost » Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 7:21 AM UTC

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upghost wrote: post #492

Whenever I am confronted with the extreme passion behind Sam Altman's leadership, I often wonder if they are just deliberately ignoring the whole Worldcoin thing... everyone does realize it's the same guy, right? Another, um, "non-profit" that is trying to establish a privately controlled global world cryptocurrency and identity in order to, if I'm reading this right, biometrically distinguish us from the AGI he's tr…

I agree, I don't think if this is well intentioned. On the other hand, I don't think worldcoin will ever amount to anything and at most they'd be hacked at some point for the biometrics.

Post by moritz » Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 7:27 AM UTC

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Berniek wrote: post #142

Who is driving the company (companies)? Certainly not the board, when it can be ousted on the whim of one person. Might as well just get rid of the board (all boards in this organization) as any decision made can be overthrown by a bit of publicity and ego. Perhaps it about getting rich at the expense of any ethics? Those who work for this company should bear this in mind, they are all expendable!

The reason the CEO could oust the board like that was that after the board fired the CEO, 720 of the 770 employees of the company got together and signed a pledge that they will all leave unless the CEO is reinstated and the board fired. This was the purest example of labor democracy and self-organization in action in the United States I have ever seen, my takeaway is rather the opposite of "they are all expendable".…

Post by maayank » Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 7:32 AM UTC

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> Also don't they all have equity in OpenAI? Call me a cynic but this must be the reason behind those 700 employees threatening to walk away, especially if as it seems the board wanted to “slow down”. I don’t think it’s so much of a “we love Altman” as “we love any CEO that will increase the value of our equity”.

People go to work to make money. If they’re lucky, they also like they’re work. It’s ok to want more out of work. Work certainly wants more out of you.