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Henry Kissinger Has Died

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Post by hakdbha »

reducesuffering wrote: post #195
protocolture wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Theres a semi apocryphal story that one of Kissingers friends warned him before he started working under clearance, that once he had access to "Intelligence" that other people didn't have, he would lose his humanity to the spooks, and assume he was smarter than the people without clearance. Which seems to be sort of what happened.

> assume he was smarter than the people without clearance Idk, it's actually wild how HN is almost entirely "Kissinger is a war criminal" meme-ing with little actual specific policy substance behind it. Meanwhile, if you read any Kissinger, you'd realize he understood history and the international relations better than 99% of these comments. Truly, word-for-word basis you will undoubtedly learn far more about history…

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cocacola1 wrote: post #15

I can understand why people despise Kissinger, but he’s a pretty interesting figure on the whole. Not the best diplomat or Secretary of State we’ve had, but certainly a seminal figure in American foreign policy.

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Post by Frummy »

ted_bunny wrote: post #206
Frummy wrote: post #93

He wrote a fair amount of books for the interested

I'm suddenly interested in books for the disinterested.

Right, I would like to stick my head in the sand and not understand people who influenced modern history as well. Or maybe you would like to read about anti-imperialism and anti-capitalism of which there are plenty of books, get your fill. Most direct criticisms are poorly written and sprinkled with conspiratiorial delusions, such as A History of Central Banking and the Enslavement of Mankind by Stephen Mitford Goodson if you truly want a recommendation, which certainly attempts to go for the jugular but not well at all.

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Post by borski »

Schiendelman wrote: post #217
missedthecue wrote: post #178

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You may be surprised to learn it's been in shambles for a while longer than that.

Yeah, but it was meaningfully stabilizing before we fucked it again.

A few thousand years of regular stabilization and destabilization would like a few words with you, lol

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Post by dumpsterlid »

chirau wrote: post #132

As a person from the third world and more specifically Africa, I cannot find myself to mourn his death or say any good thing about Kissinger. Good riddance actually. I would have loved to see him get his day in court when he was still alive. What he masterminded in Angola and several other African countries that ended up in civil wars because of him are some of the greatest atrocities to people of the third world. I…

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Post by ksaj »

oska wrote: post #248
ksaj wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YouTube seems to have made it unplayable (for now). You get a vague error when you try to play it.

Alternative link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVGV6lvNTR4 (Edit : added another) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En7bhLPso2Y

That worked. I've seen a lot of MP videos, but I've not heard this. Very much their style, and funny in the most absurdist ways.

Thanks!

I went back to the original link and it still gives the same error. All good now though.

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Post by dang »

arp242 wrote: post #5

I'm surprised at the extreme brevity of this obituary; were they taken by surprise someone could die of old age as young as 100 and didn't have anything prepared? I would have expected at least an brief summary of his career, highlights, major points of controversy, etc. e.g. like this: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/29/henry-kissin... (and undoubtedly many others). Also, this ruins my "Jimmy Carter v.…

We've changed the URL from https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67574495 to the NYT piece which (per https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38469147) has obviously been in the works for...decades at this point.
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