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Henry Kissinger Has Died

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Re: Henry Kissinger Has Died

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe one of the few publications with the integrity to publish those words.

> one of the few publications with the integrity to publish those words And a symptom of the term being neutered into meaninglessness. A critical element of war criminality is command. If you don’t command armed forces, it’s difficult to commit war crimes, legally speaking. You can have condoned or collaborated or contributed to them.

Yes, I’m sure that’s why he was never seriously threatened legally: the closest you could get to command would probably be Cambodia where he very explicitly told General Haig to start bombing a neutral country but in that case was also very clearly passing on Nixon’s direct order: “He wants a massive bombing campaign in Cambodia. He doesn’t want to hear anything. It’s an order, it’s to be done. Anything that flies, on anything that moves. You got that?”

I’m sure that if he’d ever had to face a hostile inquiry his defense would have been that when the President of the United States tells you to make a phone call, you do, and he’d almost certainly have been successful.

Re: Henry Kissinger Has Died

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe one of the few publications with the integrity to publish those words.

> one of the few publications with the integrity to publish those words And a symptom of the term being neutered into meaninglessness. A critical element of war criminality is command. If you don’t command armed forces, it’s difficult to commit war crimes, legally speaking. You can have condoned or collaborated or contributed to them.

The level at which Henry Kissinger micromanaged the bombing of innocent civilians can not be overlooked. Even by fairly stringent definitions he is a war criminal.

Re: Henry Kissinger Has Died

#74
post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> one of the few publications with the integrity to publish those words And a symptom of the term being neutered into meaninglessness. A critical element of war criminality is command. If you don’t command armed forces, it’s difficult to commit war crimes, legally speaking. You can have condoned or collaborated or contributed to them.

Yes, I’m sure that’s why he was never seriously threatened legally: the closest you could get to command would probably be Cambodia where he very explicitly told General Haig to start bombing a neutral country but in that case was also very clearly passing on Nixon’s direct order: “He wants a massive bombing campaign in Cambodia. He doesn’t want to hear anything. It’s an order, it’s to be done. Anything that flies, o…

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Re: Henry Kissinger Has Died

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post #40

He was a very influential political operator. It’s true what they say though, at least in this case. Only the good die young.

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Jews are often accused of dual loyalty. Kissinger would have been livid at the suggestion that he placed Jewish interests above the American national interest.

Re: Henry Kissinger Has Died

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> one of the few publications with the integrity to publish those words And a symptom of the term being neutered into meaninglessness. A critical element of war criminality is command. If you don’t command armed forces, it’s difficult to commit war crimes, legally speaking. You can have condoned or collaborated or contributed to them.

The level at which Henry Kissinger micromanaged the bombing of innocent civilians can not be overlooked. Even by fairly stringent definitions he is a war criminal.

> level at which Henry Kissinger micromanaged the bombing of innocent civilians can not be overlooked

Sure. But legally irrelevant. He didn’t command them. The person receiving the order could—and in many cases, should—have refused. That’s different if e.g. Nixon ordered it directly, because in that case it’s a military command.

Again, these terms had meaning. But they’re practically unenforceable even in public opinion, now, because they’re bandied about loosely. That gives cover for actual war criminals.

Re: Henry Kissinger Has Died

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post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> one of the few publications with the integrity to publish those words And a symptom of the term being neutered into meaninglessness. A critical element of war criminality is command. If you don’t command armed forces, it’s difficult to commit war crimes, legally speaking. You can have condoned or collaborated or contributed to them.

Yes, I’m sure that’s why he was never seriously threatened legally: the closest you could get to command would probably be Cambodia where he very explicitly told General Haig to start bombing a neutral country but in that case was also very clearly passing on Nixon’s direct order: “He wants a massive bombing campaign in Cambodia. He doesn’t want to hear anything. It’s an order, it’s to be done. Anything that flies, o…

"I just did what the Führer ordered" wasn't a winning argument at Nuremberg.
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