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Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board

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Is anyone feeling more comfortable about relying on OpenAI as a customer after this announcement?

Should anyone feel 100% comfortable betting on a company that has only been (really) commercially engaged in the last 4 years? Whose success (albeit explosive) could only be seen in the last 18 months?

If we are going to rank the concerns around openai announcements from the past 2 weeks, I'd bet the more concerning one was the initial firing decision.

Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board

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> The fact that we did not lose a single customer will drive us to work even harder for you, and we are all excited to get back to work. I'm not a big customer, but I am starting the process of moving away from OpenAI in response to these events

That’s a strange statement because I definitely canceled my subscription as a result of the happenings. This very public battle confirmed for me how misaligned OpenAI is with the originating charter and mission of its nonprofit. And I didn’t want to financially contribute towards that future anymore.

I guess my subscription didn’t count as a customer.

Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board

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Who is driving the company (companies)? Certainly not the board, when it can be ousted on the whim of one person. Might as well just get rid of the board (all boards in this organization) as any decision made can be overthrown by a bit of publicity and ego. Perhaps it about getting rich at the expense of any ethics? Those who work for this company should bear this in mind, they are all expendable!

Hacker News represents hackers, not Boards of Directors. The hackers of OpenAI overwhelmingly demanded Sam back. Everyone here should be happy.

Their wallets demanded Sam back.

The original, founder hacker lost.

Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board

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post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? If the product is useful (it is to me), then why do you care so much as to the internal politics? If it ceases to be useful or something better comes along, sure. But this strikes me as being serially online and involved in drama

Because you don't rely on a business that had 80% of its staff threaten to quit overnight?

> staff threaten to quit overnight

They didn't, though. They threatened to continue tomorrow!

It's called "walking across the street" and there's an expression for it because it's a thing that happens if governance fails but Makers gonna Make.

Microsoft was already running the environment, with rights to deliver it to customers, and added a paycheck for the people pouring themselves into it. The staff "threatened" to maintain continuity (and released the voice feature during the middle of the turmoil!).

Maybe relying on a business where the employees are almost unanimously determined to continue the mission is a safer bet than most.

Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board

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Do we have any more insight into why he was fired in the first place?

Not really. But Helen Toner has been tweeting a little "To be clear: our decision was about the board's ability to effectively supervise the company, which was our role and responsibility. Though there has been speculation, we were not motivated by a desire to slow down OpenAI’s work." https://twitter.com/hlntnr/status/1730034020140912901

Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you share a link to that x/tweet?

https://twitter.com/owencm/status/1729778194947973195 It's such a strange thing apparently they can tune gpt4 turbo cleverness up and down on the fly depending current load.

That would explain a lot! Sometimes when it's fast it spits out all code. When it's slower, it's Lazy! Thanks for the link

Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board

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post #212

Can't help but feel weird about all the thanking in the letter, especially the "sincere" thanks to Tasha and Helen, the possible main antagonists in this soap opera. It's like a written version of the heart emojis in their Twitter exchanges.

Reeks of CEO speak; general bullshit that seems to go against all practical reasoning of the situation.

Don't fall for it.

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