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Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board

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post #35

i'm still not clear what the accusation against Altman was... something about being cavalier about safety? if that was the claim and it has merit, i don't understand why it wasn't right to oust him, and why the employees are clamoring for him back

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Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board

#102
post #35

i'm still not clear what the accusation against Altman was... something about being cavalier about safety? if that was the claim and it has merit, i don't understand why it wasn't right to oust him, and why the employees are clamoring for him back

I wonder how many of the OpenAI employees are part of the "Effective Accelerationism" movement (often styled e/acc on X/Twitter). These people seem to think safety concerns get in the way of progress toward a utopian AGI future.

Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board

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post #22

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I think they (OpenAI as a whole) showed themselves as a loyal, cohesive and motivated group. That is not ordinary.

> loyal Loyalty can be blinding.

Anyway, not ordinary these days.

Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board

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post #50

Not to criticize Sam, but I think people don't realize that it was Greg who was the visionary behind OpenAI. Read his blog. Greg happens to be a chill, low-drama person and surely he recruited Sam because he knew he is a great communicator and exec, but it's a bit sad to see him successfully staying out of the limelight when I think he's actually the one with the rarest form of genius and grit on the team.

By your description, it sounds like Greg's getting exactly what he wants.

Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board

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Ty for pointing this out. Massive, massive, corporate governance loss.

A better lesson is that a board can't govern a company if the company won't follow its lead. They were misaligned with almost the entirety of the employees.

Because they formed an additional entity, which is a for-profit, and has leadership treating the whole thing as a for-profit, and so employees also see what their eyes are telling them.

The misalignment is not accidental, it was carefully developed over the last few years.

Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board

#108

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Not particularly. I am still worried about their data security (considering the credit card leak in March). A new board doesn’t fix that.

If you’re concerned about the data security of OpenAI there’s always the OpenAI products served from Azure. At $DAYJOB we are working various AI features and it was a lot easier to get Azure through our InfoSec process than OpenAI.

Don’t those just go through OpenAI anyway?

Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board

#110
post #93

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Do you comprehend that if it weren't for Microsoft OpenAI wouldn't exist, nor their products which changed the world? You don't make AI in a garage with a home PC and beer. You need gigantic amount of data, compute, and talented people to organize all this, which are exceptionally rare, and also they need to eat and feed their families too.

Oh yeah, I do comprehend how such major technologies of comparable importance are managed in NON-PROFIT organizations, Linux Foundation is for one. If you're happy to give up total control of tech to one corporation, while the CEO of the company, using the influence of the OpenAI, attracts resources for his personal hardware start-up[1], — our views on how a not-for-profit company should be run are starkly different.…

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