Getting fired and rehired throughout five days of history-making corporate incompetence, and Sam's letter is just telling everyone how great they are. Ha.
Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board
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Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board
#12Is anyone feeling more comfortable about relying on OpenAI as a customer after this announcement?
Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board
#13Sam Altman: I recognize that during this process some questions were raised about Adam’s potential conflict of interest running Quora and Poe while being on the OpenAI Board. For the record, I want to state that Adam has always been very clear with me and the Board about the potential conflict and doing whatever he needed to do (recusing himself when appropriate and even offering to leave the Board if we ever thought…
That doesn't equate to having 'customer representation' that equates to 'Quora representation'. Customers are represented by a voice-of-the-customer board where many customers, large and small can be represented who then vote for a representative to the board. The board of the non-profit having a for-profit customer (and a large one at that) as a board member makes zero sense, that's just one more end-run around 'the mission' for whatever that was ever worth.
The kind of bullshit that comes out during times like this is more than a little bit annoying, it's clear that if there is a conflict of interest it should be addressed in a far more direct way and whitewashes like this raise more questions than they answer. Such as: what was Adam's real role during all of this and how does it related to his future role at the board, as well as how much cover was negotiated to allow Adam to stay on as token sign of continuity.
Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board
#14Is the new board going to fix the product? It seems completely nerfed at present.
There was a tweet that from an engineer at OpenAI that they're working on the problem that ChatGPT has become too "lazy" - generating text that contains a lot of placeholders and expecting people to fill in much more themselves. As for the general brain damage from RLHF and the political bias, no word still.
Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board
#15So even if you maintain strict board control, the money people can still kick you out. Incredible!
Ty for pointing this out. Massive, massive, corporate governance loss.
Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board
#16So even if you maintain strict board control, the money people can still kick you out. Incredible!
Not the "money people", but the extremely bad way they removed Altman, I think.
It made it easy to sway employees to Altman's favor and pressure the board.
If the employees were not cohesive on Altman's side, he probably wouldn't be back...
Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board
#17Don't think there's an update from last week after Altman returned, right?
Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board
#18So even if you maintain strict board control, the money people can still kick you out. Incredible!
The board could have stayed, they (and OpenAI) just had to bear with the consequences (i.e. all the employees leave). There are no board that can prevent employees from leaving, nor should there.
That depends on whether the board was there to provide cover and protection against regulation/nationalization or whether it was supposed to have an actual role. Apparently some board members believed that they had an actual role and others understood that they were just a fig leaf and that ultimately money (and employees) hold the strings.
Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board
#19Getting fired and rehired throughout five days of history-making corporate incompetence, and Sam's letter is just telling everyone how great they are. Ha.
As he should, in his public communication. Talking bad about anyone would only reflect poorly on Sam.
In private, I can only assume he’s a lot less diplomatic.
Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board
#20Is anyone feeling more comfortable about relying on OpenAI as a customer after this announcement?
Not particularly. I am still worried about their data security (considering the credit card leak in March). A new board doesn’t fix that.