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Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Rainloop is a good alternative IMO

I hear SnappyMail is a fork of Rainloop with lots of improvements.

Oh thanks! OpenPGP support in Rainloop is really bad, I ended up adding Mailvelope as a plugin. I'd gladly give it a shot even if just for that.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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For "expedited" retrieval it is $0.01 per request plus $0.03 per GB. Doesn't seem like a fortune. And there are retrieval options for 1/10th the cost.

Transfer is starting at $0.09 per GB.

The exact same as transfer out of normal S3? Don't get me wrong, I am as big of an AWS pessimist as one is likely to stumble across.

I guess I could reinterpret your original comment as "Have fun paying a fortune if you need to get those files [out of AWS] again."

instead of my original interpretation "Have fun paying a fortune if you need to get those files [out of Glacier] again."

Agree!

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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I might have been too stupid to figure it out, but I found Syncthing unusable because I couldn't set up a basic "backup" style sync. That is, anything I added to my phone folder would get synced one-way to my computer... and anything I deleted from that folder would also get synced one-way to my computer. This forced me to maintain my entire photo library on my phone, which of course is exactly what I was trying to a…

Would it work to set the folder type to "Send Only" on the phone and to "Receive Only" on the server? See https://docs.syncthing.net/v1.26.0/users/foldertypes

No, the issue is that send-only sends all modifications, including file deletion. I wanted it to only send new files, but couldn't find a way to do that.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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I've been running Nextcloud for family collaboration purposes since before the fork from Owncloud. I've been pretty happy with it overall. My biggest gripe with it is the increasing schizophrenia of the UX devs. One thing I _loved_ about Nextcloud was that they paid a lot of attention to making it easy to navigate and use. The newer UX "enhancements" seem to be all about maximizing (useless) whitespace and making eve…

> docker image, upgrades are a breeze. Maybe this has been improved, but I remember thinking that and then it biting me because updating to the latest image (linuxserver/nextcloud) wasn't actually updating nextcloud itself, just the environment (php, etc.) When I realized this, I had to go through several major nextcloud upgrades, incrementally going from one major version to the next. Then it bit me again a few mont…

Don't use linuxserver images. My feeling is they were done by someone who doesn't understand docker very well. Frequent use of supervisor, lack of logs on stdout, weird automagic config approach.

It may feel convenient if someone did homelab without docker, but will bite you in the long run.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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I've been running Nextcloud for family collaboration purposes since before the fork from Owncloud. I've been pretty happy with it overall. My biggest gripe with it is the increasing schizophrenia of the UX devs. One thing I _loved_ about Nextcloud was that they paid a lot of attention to making it easy to navigate and use. The newer UX "enhancements" seem to be all about maximizing (useless) whitespace and making eve…

It's even easier with the all-in-one (aio) solution. Upgrades via a simple UI, automatic Borg Backups, etc. I run this on hetzner cloud with one storagebox for the files and one storagebox for the backups. Runs nicely, gets updates, and as the storageboxes do automatic snapshots, I have double backups.

Can you use a UI to upgrade the underlying container? It's not with docker-compose?

If so that feels a bit like an anti-pattern, just like the WordPress container which updates the WP files inside the container itself, the container just contains the webserver, php and database.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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What I would like to have is a small Nextcloud installation (max. 200MB, preferably even smaller) that I can host on a ultra-cheap tiny server. I just need file sync, calendar and contacts. The total size of the synced files isn't much either. Nextcloud used to be small enough for this, but they kept adding things, bundling word processors and other stuff I don't need, meanwhile making the contacts and calendar optio…

I'm fairly certain that you can disable the word processor, as well as a lot of the other "core" features. Or at least I'm seeing a whole lot of "disable" buttons when I look at the list of active apps for my Nextcloud install.

Yes, but they are still part of the package. If you have only 500MB you easily run out of disk space for both the installer and the actual installation. And I think they remain on your disk, ready to enable. There is no easy way to remove them completely.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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What I would like to have is a small Nextcloud installation (max. 200MB, preferably even smaller) that I can host on a ultra-cheap tiny server. I just need file sync, calendar and contacts. The total size of the synced files isn't much either. Nextcloud used to be small enough for this, but they kept adding things, bundling word processors and other stuff I don't need, meanwhile making the contacts and calendar optio…

What is an ultra-cheap tiny server? Maybe a CX21 (6.37 €/mth) at https://www.hetzner.com/de/cloud would fit. There are Docker images and you only need to install the NextCloud AIO. Super simple. Upgrade is also simple (we only did it once and it went through perfectly). Syncthing is nice but file-sync-only.

A local provider that I like. Not actually ultra-cheap. You only have 500MB of storage with the smallest hosting package.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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It's even easier with the all-in-one (aio) solution. Upgrades via a simple UI, automatic Borg Backups, etc. I run this on hetzner cloud with one storagebox for the files and one storagebox for the backups. Runs nicely, gets updates, and as the storageboxes do automatic snapshots, I have double backups.

Can you use a UI to upgrade the underlying container? It's not with docker-compose? If so that feels a bit like an anti-pattern, just like the WordPress container which updates the WP files inside the container itself, the container just contains the webserver, php and database.

The AIO solution creates several docker containers that all get updated through their assisted update process. In general, I've been quite happy with it, myself. I have it running on my Unraid machine. The only problem I have intermittently is when Unraid seems to rename container names in special circumstances. I have to go and recreate the aio container. Otherwise, it's been very smooth sailing for me; and, the AIO solution definitely runs faster than my original single Docker container solution.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Do you have recommendations for a self hosted webDAV server that could act as a Dropbox / GDrive replacement? I‘m using Nextcloud only for that use case because I haven’t found anything that seemed as stable.

There's solid SFTP clients for every OS (even Android!) and all it requires on the server is the already installed OpenSSH, so I never really saw the need to look into webDAV.

For user-facing oses yes, but webdav is available on lot "embedded" devices like Smart Whiteboard, and for many oses is built in (even Windows 98), so it's easier to deploy
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