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Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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What I would like to have is a small Nextcloud installation (max. 200MB, preferably even smaller) that I can host on a ultra-cheap tiny server. I just need file sync, calendar and contacts. The total size of the synced files isn't much either. Nextcloud used to be small enough for this, but they kept adding things, bundling word processors and other stuff I don't need, meanwhile making the contacts and calendar optio…

I'm fairly certain that you can disable the word processor, as well as a lot of the other "core" features. Or at least I'm seeing a whole lot of "disable" buttons when I look at the list of active apps for my Nextcloud install.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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> ~~If you're hosting it without apache (as in: without htaccess support),~~ make sure the logs directory and files aren't exposed publicly. Never expose any logs to strangers for anything anywhere

Sure, that’s always sound advice. However, most projects are usually designed in a way that their logs are either not exposed at all (due to not being in the webroot for example), or have measurements in place to avoid exposing them (like WordPress for example). Roundcube just puts them there and you have to actively think about excluding them from your webserver configuration. Plus, they dump really sensitive inform…

Can you configure Roundcube to store them outside the webroot?

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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post #76

I've been running Nextcloud for family collaboration purposes since before the fork from Owncloud. I've been pretty happy with it overall. My biggest gripe with it is the increasing schizophrenia of the UX devs. One thing I _loved_ about Nextcloud was that they paid a lot of attention to making it easy to navigate and use. The newer UX "enhancements" seem to be all about maximizing (useless) whitespace and making eve…

> upgrades are a breeze upgrades are a breeze even without docker... the self updating function of nextcloud works very well.

Yeah I run it baremetal. No issues at all.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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post #47

I hate nextcloud with a passion and I just hope they can govern a project like roundcube... used it for 20 years even through the whole roundcube next debacle. That said roundcube itself is not an oss project with a clean track record. Nextcloud is the OSS equivalent of IBM and ticking boxes so it's easy for management to pull the trigger but every feature is just a half-assed buggy implementation. Gobbling up OSS fu…

Hmm, I am using it for years and can’t quite relate to your passionate hate. With regards to box ticking, that is probably something you need to do if you want to compete with Gsuite and O365. Both have sales teams which are influencing some decision makers in organisations wherever they can. If you give these people the opportunity to say ‘Ha, we can’t use Nextcloud because it does not support XYZ’ then they will. Y…

You wrote it yourself "might be implemented half-arsed in Gsuite or O365". You can be sure it's half-arsed with nextcloud. For smaller deployments it might be fine but it starts to get bogged down with more than 1000 users.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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post #134

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> upgrades are a breeze upgrades are a breeze even without docker... the self updating function of nextcloud works very well.

Yeah I run it baremetal. No issues at all.

I’ve had it bork my install so many times that in the end I spent more time recovering nextcloud than actually using it.

My instance is dead now, after I failed to recover it the last time and couldn’t be bothered anymore.

YMMV, but I’m out.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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post #76

I've been running Nextcloud for family collaboration purposes since before the fork from Owncloud. I've been pretty happy with it overall. My biggest gripe with it is the increasing schizophrenia of the UX devs. One thing I _loved_ about Nextcloud was that they paid a lot of attention to making it easy to navigate and use. The newer UX "enhancements" seem to be all about maximizing (useless) whitespace and making eve…

> docker image, upgrades are a breeze. Maybe this has been improved, but I remember thinking that and then it biting me because updating to the latest image (linuxserver/nextcloud) wasn't actually updating nextcloud itself, just the environment (php, etc.) When I realized this, I had to go through several major nextcloud upgrades, incrementally going from one major version to the next. Then it bit me again a few mont…

Having just dealt with this… can you share that automation?

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm, I am using it for years and can’t quite relate to your passionate hate. With regards to box ticking, that is probably something you need to do if you want to compete with Gsuite and O365. Both have sales teams which are influencing some decision makers in organisations wherever they can. If you give these people the opportunity to say ‘Ha, we can’t use Nextcloud because it does not support XYZ’ then they will. Y…

You wrote it yourself "might be implemented half-arsed in Gsuite or O365". You can be sure it's half-arsed with nextcloud. For smaller deployments it might be fine but it starts to get bogged down with more than 1000 users.

NextCloud is just your typical PHP & MySQL webapp. The scaling limit is how many connections your database server can handles and how much iops your disk provides.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

#140
post #76

I've been running Nextcloud for family collaboration purposes since before the fork from Owncloud. I've been pretty happy with it overall. My biggest gripe with it is the increasing schizophrenia of the UX devs. One thing I _loved_ about Nextcloud was that they paid a lot of attention to making it easy to navigate and use. The newer UX "enhancements" seem to be all about maximizing (useless) whitespace and making eve…

> docker image, upgrades are a breeze. Maybe this has been improved, but I remember thinking that and then it biting me because updating to the latest image (linuxserver/nextcloud) wasn't actually updating nextcloud itself, just the environment (php, etc.) When I realized this, I had to go through several major nextcloud upgrades, incrementally going from one major version to the next. Then it bit me again a few mont…

I just use the regular "official" docker hub image, not the linuxserver one. Not sure what the differences may be.

The "major versions incremental upgrades" is a fundamental nextcloud thing, to do with their database migrations I expect. I was way behind and had to do three of them in a row when I containerized my Nextcloud instance, but they all worked fine, thankfully.

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