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Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by MoSattler »

gpvos wrote: post #71

What I would like to have is a small Nextcloud installation (max. 200MB, preferably even smaller) that I can host on a ultra-cheap tiny server. I just need file sync, calendar and contacts. The total size of the synced files isn't much either. Nextcloud used to be small enough for this, but they kept adding things, bundling word processors and other stuff I don't need, meanwhile making the contacts and calendar optio…

A few years back I used to use SyncThing + DecSync for that purpose, and it worked quite well. Looks like it hasn't been updated in a while though.

https://github.com/39aldo39/DecSync

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by microtonal »

youdontknowjuli wrote: post #14
preya2k wrote: post #6

I'm glad the post states that Roundcube will stay an independent product. Roundcube is on a whole other level in terms of stability and robustness compared to Nextcloud. I'm also glad that the current Nextcloud client will be replaced, because it's not very good right now.

I really tried to make Nextcloud work for me but it was too much. I‘ll pay the enshittified Dropbox premium soon. Some bugs I encountered in a few hours of testing and trying to make it work. The Mac auto-update installs an incompatible version to my OS; the website offers only the new incompatible and an old version that also doesn’t work (OS can not scan the app). The solution is to find a suitable version from a h…

I‘ll pay the enshittified Dropbox premium soon.

I have been using Maestral for Dropbox sync on Mac for years now and it works great. The primary downside is that it doesn't have block-level sync because it's not supported by the API. The flip side is that you don't get the memory-hungry Dropbox app that embeds a web engine for some unfathomable reason.

I wish that Dropbox would bring back their old client that just did sync and not all the crap that I don't need.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by johnsea »

deng wrote: post #15
preya2k wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure which "focus on hub/groupware" you're talking about. Some groupware features are still horribly buggy and understaffed (e.g. the whole mess of co-existing methods of sharing files/folders with groups – Share vs. Group Folder vs. Collectives/Circles – or the crazy amount of WebDav and CalDav bugs that have been existing for many years), while "AI" (or some other buzzwordy technology) gets all the focus. As mu…

Unfortunately, I can only second this. The absolute basic functionality, meaning file storage and access through a browser, works fine. However, as soon as it comes to integration with the various existing clients, things fall apart, and it's not even terribly complicated stuff. For instance, I used Nextcloud to automatically upload photos from my Android mobile, and this has been completely broken for over 2 months…

If I only would need file sync I'd use Syncthing. But with calendars, adresses, chat, mail, decks, etc. I don't know another solution. Some compromises are necessary: I didn't find e.g. a good note taking app with sharing among members. Chat posts cannot be edited.

So far our AIO based installation worked well enough (with PC, Mac and Android clients). But we do not have a lot of files (yet).

After bad experience with incompetent MS support stuff regarding our (not cheap!) Office retail licenses I also had to manage expectations there: a lot of time wasted, they only wanted to move us to the 365 subscription model, could not help. Somehow I'm not convinced that with MS365 we would have a simple well-arranged flexible system (but just be bound forever).

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by microtonal »

jchw wrote: post #31
jmnicolas wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If Dropbox is all you need you might be satisfied with Syncthing. I have used it for a week now, it works well and I have the warm fuzzy feeling that nobody is using my data to make a few bucks (I'm self hosting it on a home server).

Not only that, you don't even need to "host" Syncthing. Being P2P in nature, it can just run on whatever computers you want to sync to, directly. That's pretty cool. The only thing I'd really want for Syncthing is some kind of simple interface for my desktops (all running SwayWM.) There's a GTK app that I use on my Pinephone, but it's a little janky. I mainly just want to be able to know that I'll get notifications w…

You still need a node somewhere that is always available, otherwise your device cannot sync when your other devices are offline.

My wife and I had such a setup for years with Resilio Sync. But life is busy enough to maintain yet another thing, so we are happy to fork over the monthly fee for Dropbox Family.

Ideally I'd switch over to some other sync solution, because Dropbox is somewhat overpriced. But we've had bad experiences with Google Drive and OneDrive for local sync in the past.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by TheCapeGreek »

bityard wrote: post #76

I've been running Nextcloud for family collaboration purposes since before the fork from Owncloud. I've been pretty happy with it overall. My biggest gripe with it is the increasing schizophrenia of the UX devs. One thing I _loved_ about Nextcloud was that they paid a lot of attention to making it easy to navigate and use. The newer UX "enhancements" seem to be all about maximizing (useless) whitespace and making eve…

>On the plus side, if you're using the docker image, upgrades are a breeze. Just bump the tag on the image, redeploy, and you're done. (It did take a _lot_ of effort to migrating my existing data to the docker container, though.)

As much as people rag on Snap, Nextcloud being available on it is also super convenient if one doesn't feel like using Docker.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by willyt »

gpvos wrote: post #71

What I would like to have is a small Nextcloud installation (max. 200MB, preferably even smaller) that I can host on a ultra-cheap tiny server. I just need file sync, calendar and contacts. The total size of the synced files isn't much either. Nextcloud used to be small enough for this, but they kept adding things, bundling word processors and other stuff I don't need, meanwhile making the contacts and calendar optio…

https://nextcloudpi.com might do it for you. I've been running it on raspberry pi 4 with a Samsung 1tb usb3 ssd for a year or two with no problems that weren't solved by turning it off and on again...yet.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by johnsea »

gpvos wrote: post #71

What I would like to have is a small Nextcloud installation (max. 200MB, preferably even smaller) that I can host on a ultra-cheap tiny server. I just need file sync, calendar and contacts. The total size of the synced files isn't much either. Nextcloud used to be small enough for this, but they kept adding things, bundling word processors and other stuff I don't need, meanwhile making the contacts and calendar optio…

What is an ultra-cheap tiny server? Maybe a CX21 (6.37 €/mth) at https://www.hetzner.com/de/cloud would fit. There are Docker images and you only need to install the NextCloud AIO. Super simple. Upgrade is also simple (we only did it once and it went through perfectly).

Syncthing is nice but file-sync-only.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by mytdi »

gpvos wrote: post #71

What I would like to have is a small Nextcloud installation (max. 200MB, preferably even smaller) that I can host on a ultra-cheap tiny server. I just need file sync, calendar and contacts. The total size of the synced files isn't much either. Nextcloud used to be small enough for this, but they kept adding things, bundling word processors and other stuff I don't need, meanwhile making the contacts and calendar optio…

For some of the reasons you give, I prefer Owncloud over Nextcloud. Owncloud is less bloated. I recently set up Joplin notes to sync with Owncloud using WebDAV following instructions on Owncloud's blog [0], it was easy and works well. I haven't set up contacts and calendars yet, but would like to, eventually. It looks like it can be done with CardDAV and CalDAV [1]. [0]: https://owncloud.com/news/how-to-sync-notes-with-owncloud-an... [1]: https://blog.evomailserver.com/how-to-sync-owncloud-10-conta...

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by marcosdumay »

jonnycomputer wrote: post #55

Comments here seem to suggest that Nextcloud isn't worth it. Later today I'm supposed to talk with some folks at IT looking for an in-house file-sharing/collaboration tool that Dropbox/GoogleDrive is (or was, because after GoogleDrive price hikes our institution ditched them). I was going to suggest Nextcloud as a possible option to investigate...

Nah, nextcloud is a reasonable enterprise file-sharing/collaboration tool.

What you are seeing here is a lot of people trying to use it as a file synchronization tool, and discovering that it's bloated beyond reason (because well, it's a file-sharing/collaboration tool) and the file sync functionality isn't even as good as you'll get from specialized tools.

The root problem is that nextcloud started as a file sync tool, and moved into other niche, and never bothered to communicate it.

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