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Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by pahae »

manmal wrote: post #39
creshal wrote: post #36

Given Nextcloud's track record that doesn't bode well for Roundcube's future. We tried to make Nextcloud work for us for years, but it's just too terribly clunky, unstable, bug-ridden, and customer hostile. I hope none of that rubs off on roundcube.

Do you have recommendations for a self hosted webDAV server that could act as a Dropbox / GDrive replacement? I‘m using Nextcloud only for that use case because I haven’t found anything that seemed as stable.

We used Seafile in $old_job a couple of years back. Still had some rough edges back then (mostly with user management) but the rest was rock solid. Loved working with it, managing and sharing files was pretty easy.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by nik736 »

robertlagrant wrote: post #45
eurekin wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, I'd throw them away in a blink, If I were not lazy: Almost after every shoot, people come back "remember that one photo, where I smiled at sth? I'm very sentimental about that, cause it's [some important thing to them]", which necessitates the need to hold on to every photo taken on the session. So no real deletes here, even if it came out technically wrong (blurry, blown out, etc.). Those requests lessen, but do…

You could also back up to something like AWS Glacier. The cheapest tier (access less than once a year) is $1/TB/month. Maybe if you kept thumbnails locally, you could push all the data up and only pull it as and when you needed it.

Have fun paying a fortune if you need to get those files again.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by oskapt »

jmnicolas wrote: post #25
youdontknowjuli wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really tried to make Nextcloud work for me but it was too much. I‘ll pay the enshittified Dropbox premium soon. Some bugs I encountered in a few hours of testing and trying to make it work. The Mac auto-update installs an incompatible version to my OS; the website offers only the new incompatible and an old version that also doesn’t work (OS can not scan the app). The solution is to find a suitable version from a h…

If Dropbox is all you need you might be satisfied with Syncthing. I have used it for a week now, it works well and I have the warm fuzzy feeling that nobody is using my data to make a few bucks (I'm self hosting it on a home server).

Syncthing is great, and I use it at home. For a robust multi-user alternative to Dropbox (or *cloud), I can also recommend Seafile. I replaced Dropbox with a self-hosted version of Seafile and have never looked back. Also, for a fantastic mail server solution with a great webmail client, look at Axigen. Their free version is more than enough for a personal server, and you can use Amazon SES for outbound mail to avoid reputation issues. I host mine at Linode and love it. If you have a business need or are larger than the limits of the free version, their license costs are quite reasonable.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by jonnycomputer »

pseudostem wrote: post #46
manmal wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have recommendations for a self hosted webDAV server that could act as a Dropbox / GDrive replacement? I‘m using Nextcloud only for that use case because I haven’t found anything that seemed as stable.

I echo GPs thoughts. I use a VPS with syncthing. While that is also clunky, it works for my usecase while keeping multiple redundant copies across devices.

Depends on what you mean by redundant though, right? Syncthing is generally not gonna protect you from an accidental `rm -r *`, unless perhaps you set yourself up with a permanent head server where everything is versioned but on which files are never edited. (I'll be happy to be wrong)

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by jonnycomputer »

Comments here seem to suggest that Nextcloud isn't worth it. Later today I'm supposed to talk with some folks at IT looking for an in-house file-sharing/collaboration tool that Dropbox/GoogleDrive is (or was, because after GoogleDrive price hikes our institution ditched them). I was going to suggest Nextcloud as a possible option to investigate...

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by robertlagrant »

nik736 wrote: post #52
robertlagrant wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could also back up to something like AWS Glacier. The cheapest tier (access less than once a year) is $1/TB/month. Maybe if you kept thumbnails locally, you could push all the data up and only pull it as and when you needed it.

Have fun paying a fortune if you need to get those files again.

If you need all of them, and can wait 5-12 hours, that appears to be free to request and transfer? Or am I misreading[0]?

[0] https://aws.amazon.com/s3/glacier/pricing/#Retrieval_request... <- under "Bulk"

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by creshal »

manmal wrote: post #39
creshal wrote: post #36

Given Nextcloud's track record that doesn't bode well for Roundcube's future. We tried to make Nextcloud work for us for years, but it's just too terribly clunky, unstable, bug-ridden, and customer hostile. I hope none of that rubs off on roundcube.

Do you have recommendations for a self hosted webDAV server that could act as a Dropbox / GDrive replacement? I‘m using Nextcloud only for that use case because I haven’t found anything that seemed as stable.

There's solid SFTP clients for every OS (even Android!) and all it requires on the server is the already installed OpenSSH, so I never really saw the need to look into webDAV.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by crossroadsguy »

manmal wrote: post #39
creshal wrote: post #36

Given Nextcloud's track record that doesn't bode well for Roundcube's future. We tried to make Nextcloud work for us for years, but it's just too terribly clunky, unstable, bug-ridden, and customer hostile. I hope none of that rubs off on roundcube.

Do you have recommendations for a self hosted webDAV server that could act as a Dropbox / GDrive replacement? I‘m using Nextcloud only for that use case because I haven’t found anything that seemed as stable.

I am not much into self hosting other than a barebone setup that takes care of my linux ISOs on a VPS, but you might want to check Syncthing. Put it on a server and then connect it from other places. This software is a marvel at simplicity (except a bit of settings/config - I mean for heaven's sake that can definitely be improved :P; but once done it's rock solid - it just works and not like Apple where we pretend it just works, it really just works) and robustness. Also I never face speed problem or any hiccups pretty much. It puts Dropbox and GDrive etc to shame combined.

If I could find time to be better at self hosting and will be able to take care of a server's upkeep, security/OS/package patches/updates et cetera then if I have to setup two first tools on this it would be Syncthing and RClone.

On the other hand for my current needs I use filen.io (it's on BF sale right now). It's not the best but works fine for my use - like a remote hard disk acting like backup (its "local backup" sync mode).

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by muixoozie »

jonnycomputer wrote: post #55

Comments here seem to suggest that Nextcloud isn't worth it. Later today I'm supposed to talk with some folks at IT looking for an in-house file-sharing/collaboration tool that Dropbox/GoogleDrive is (or was, because after GoogleDrive price hikes our institution ditched them). I was going to suggest Nextcloud as a possible option to investigate...

I'm not sure all your requirements, but check out syncthing.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by ar0 »

jonnycomputer wrote: post #55

Comments here seem to suggest that Nextcloud isn't worth it. Later today I'm supposed to talk with some folks at IT looking for an in-house file-sharing/collaboration tool that Dropbox/GoogleDrive is (or was, because after GoogleDrive price hikes our institution ditched them). I was going to suggest Nextcloud as a possible option to investigate...

I don’t know… the overall tone seems to be a bit too negative for me here.

I have used Nextcloud at home for years now without issues and we also used it at a large university where it worked just fine (from a user perspective; I don’t know if it gave the administrators nightmares). I do agree that they should invest more time in polish and stability and less in swanky new features that many won’t need, but that would not lead me to discourage anyone from using (or at least trying) Nextcloud.

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