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Almost no mention of streaming and also contains this gem: > Lucas and Spielberg also spoke of vast differences between filmmaking and video games because the latter hasn’t been able to tell stories and make consumers care about the characters This definitely wasn’t true at the time and it isn’t true now. Just goes to show how hard it is to predict the future.
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Based on my limited gaming experience I agree with the original quote (the last game I played was cyberpunk). Is there an obvious “everyone should play ___” recommendation, that has story and characters with depth and believable motives? Edit: I realize that was kind of a lazy question so thanks to everyone for the answers!
Someone wrote they think Portal/TLOU/Bioshock have one dimensional characters and stories but deleted (maybe fearing downvotes), but I wanted to know: What games do you think excel at story/character? The average perspective of literary studies presents characters in media as often not made to simulate humans but be symbols for ideas, conflict, groups, emotions. https://thepointmag.com/criticism/real-characters-liter…
Portal is a puzzle game with a bit of a silly story to move the puzzles along. I didn't care about the protagonist, in the same way that I don't care about the art work in a chess game. It's lovely but I'm not emotionally invested in it in the same way I'm not emotionally invested in Fast and Furious.
Bioshock 1/2/Infinite was similar. The world had been lovingly crafted, the antagonists and enemies had backstories but the main character was not anyone I cared about. Having a backstory is completely different to having a relatable protagonist that I want to see succeed.
For every Logan there are 6(?) X-Men films that are just explosions.
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I really don't think private puppet shows, as visually impressive as they could get, would be engaging. The point of a good story is in no small part the surprise and the transformation in world view it is capable of delivering.
AI can already write scripts that match bottom of the barrel entertainment like the fast and the furious movies. The resultant content will absolutely be engaging for the majority of the population, and it can absolutely contain surprise and transformation while delivering a world view.
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I really don't think private puppet shows, as visually impressive as they could get, would be engaging. The point of a good story is in no small part the surprise and the transformation in world view it is capable of delivering.
Fine it will be hobbyists/moonlighting creators on streaming platforms delivering a heavy dose of 20 second to 30 minute AI generated content. Basically where we are today except it will just get more and more engaging as the tools become more accessible/powerful.
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AI can already write scripts that match bottom of the barrel entertainment like the fast and the furious movies. The resultant content will absolutely be engaging for the majority of the population, and it can absolutely contain surprise and transformation while delivering a world view.
These are very strong and unwarranted convictions. Did you watch never ending seinfeld? I know "the AI will keep getting better". I guess we'll see about that.
Can we generate photorealistic CGI? Yes. Is that likely to become more common and able to be generated on an average to high end home PC instead of needing a farm of GPUs? I believe so.
Can AI currently write scenes and dialogue that, while janky, isn't always bad? Yes. Is that likely to substantially improve over the next decade? Also yes.
What do you get if you combine them, hmm?
> I know "the AI will keep getting better". I guess we'll see about that.
You say I have strong and unwarranted convictions, but I would say instead this seems like unwarranted and unreasonable skepticism.
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Red Dead Redemption 2
These were characters I thought a lot about, as I was playing the game through my exit out of the military. Leaving your gang behind while trying to stay positive and be the best you can in a quickly changing world made me feel human after years of never feeling like I could be myself. That game is a 10/10 story and video game experience. Anyone who thinks that a game couldn't be that compelling as a story has a bias…
It is a masterpiece. I've played many games but RDR2 is on another level. It's like taking control of a character in a book and take him until the last page.
Almost no mention of streaming and also contains this gem: > Lucas and Spielberg also spoke of vast differences between filmmaking and video games because the latter hasn’t been able to tell stories and make consumers care about the characters This definitely wasn’t true at the time and it isn’t true now. Just goes to show how hard it is to predict the future.
A lot of game developers, myself included, don't think scripted stories belong in games at all. A lot of they time they are bolted on because some players expect one. All the best games have no story, Factorio, Slay the Spire, Vampire Survivors, Quake, Pacman.