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I'm having trouble parsing this comment. Who got what they wanted?
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And woke is not bad. Some form of woke are bad but I don't think having female speakers is a bad thing.
It is a sausage party and it's not a good thing
I understand why people want to talk at conference that have a diverse array of speakers. However, the fact there is an extreme shortage of a specific gender shouldn't really fall on conference organisers. One conference that was blasted for only having one or two women speakers was organised by a women who pointed out that every women who applied got to speak. It's got to the point from what I've noticed from confer…
>> IP logs from a forum for programmers obtained by 404 Media I am more interested in what forums is turning over their IP logs to the media, what the privacy policy was for that forum, and if other members of that forum know this is happening
>> IP logs from a forum for programmers obtained by 404 Media I am more interested in what forums is turning over their IP logs to the media, what the privacy policy was for that forum, and if other members of that forum know this is happening
If you create sockpuppets on a forum for the purpose of fraudulently establishing a fake identity to sell conference tickets, I don’t think you have an expectation of privacy with respect to server logs that establish that. Same as if you rob a bodega, you don’t expect privacy rights over the CCTV footage.
This comparison is inaccurate. The bodega wasn’t robbed. This is a media reporter asking a bodega for CCTV footage because they are investigating one of the customers.
I feel like I'm going insane with some of the takes here. The creator of the conference created catfishing accounts devoted to advertising the event, they advertised and sold their conference as being 'diverse' knowing full well that they're lying and the responses is 'oh, the poor organizer had to commit fraud to survive'? What? If they're lying about whos going to the conference and speaking, then what else are the…
So they got what they wanted. A store is inclusive because everyone can enter it. A conference is inclusive only if you drag every type of person in by force, faking it if it didn’t work out. “Otherwise it’s not inclusive and I’m not participating”. Isn’t that pure nonsense.
Just the ability to enter isn't what makes up inclusivity, especially for a conference. It's about being as included, welcome and accommodated for as another group.
I remember an anecdote from a recent Kate Gregory (iirc) talk about the early days of C++ conferences, where it turned out the organizers just didn't think about renting woman's toilets, only men's toilets. (Not to mention that this distinction is bullshit anyway, but that's a separate topic)
Faking speakers is pretty shitty but at the same time, it is disheartening to acknowledge that in 2023, there are still people who care about the gender or race of speakers.
>> IP logs from a forum for programmers obtained by 404 Media I am more interested in what forums is turning over their IP logs to the media, what the privacy policy was for that forum, and if other members of that forum know this is happening
I know this is pure whataboutism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism), but I don't have any duty to keep the secrets of sockpuppeting spammers; the forum privacy policy is short and unambiguous. No members have expressed concerns over me banning his accounts in 2019, in 2020 when he spammed us again, or me talking to 404 Media. As a responsible journalist, Sam Cole asked if I had evidence of his abuse and I pasted from my log, though I redacted the exact IP address.
Faking speakers is pretty shitty but at the same time, it is disheartening to acknowledge that in 2023, there are still people who care about the gender or race of speakers.
I ran a workshop a few years back, and some female speakers wrote to me (collectively) to ask that I include more women, along with suggested names. Given that in academia there is already probably pro-female bias in hiring, I think this was bad, and in retrospect I should not have accepted it.
>> IP logs from a forum for programmers obtained by 404 Media I am more interested in what forums is turning over their IP logs to the media, what the privacy policy was for that forum, and if other members of that forum know this is happening