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I hereby pardon all junior engineers

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Re: I hereby pardon all junior engineers

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> It seems like nobody knows how to build things anymore.

The Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Germans, etc might disagree. There's a lot of people out there who seem to be able to build very high quality things fairly quickly. It seems like it's the Americans that are struggling. We have for a long time, actually.

I would argue we just have a shitty building culture. We chase trends, cheap out on materials and salaries, overcharge for services, ignore maintenance, and shun process. We're way more interested in the shiny and shooting by the hip than the boring careful measurement. Growth is more important than quality to us. Greed and the new are our gods. HN is the pulpit. Laziness is the ladder on which we climb toward the heavens, ignorance our fuel. Watch this, I'm going to reinvent the wheel! We won't be able to roll on it but we can sell it for a bundle before it collapses.

It doesn't seem this way because we have so much money keeping us afloat. Like Google, the company renowned for its tech culture, but really makes most of its money selling eyeballs to Nike and Kraft.

Re: I hereby pardon all junior engineers

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> It seems like nobody knows how to build things anymore. The Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Germans, etc might disagree. There's a lot of people out there who seem to be able to build very high quality things fairly quickly. It seems like it's the Americans that are struggling. We have for a long time, actually. I would argue we just have a shitty building culture. We chase trends, cheap out on materials and salaries,…

It has been my experience that there are good and bad engineers from all origins; Americans do not have a monopoly on it in either direction, nor does anyone else.

Re: I hereby pardon all junior engineers

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> It seems like nobody knows how to build things anymore. The Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Germans, etc might disagree. There's a lot of people out there who seem to be able to build very high quality things fairly quickly. It seems like it's the Americans that are struggling. We have for a long time, actually. I would argue we just have a shitty building culture. We chase trends, cheap out on materials and salaries,…

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Re: I hereby pardon all junior engineers

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> It seems like nobody knows how to build things anymore. The Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Germans, etc might disagree. There's a lot of people out there who seem to be able to build very high quality things fairly quickly. It seems like it's the Americans that are struggling. We have for a long time, actually. I would argue we just have a shitty building culture. We chase trends, cheap out on materials and salaries,…

It has been my experience that there are good and bad engineers from all origins; Americans do not have a monopoly on it in either direction, nor does anyone else.

If you can't generalize then you can't think. Of course any affirmation can be turned down on the basis that it is not specific enough.

OP is pointing at differences in cultures, they do exist.

Re: I hereby pardon all junior engineers

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has been my experience that there are good and bad engineers from all origins; Americans do not have a monopoly on it in either direction, nor does anyone else.

If you can't generalize then you can't think. Of course any affirmation can be turned down on the basis that it is not specific enough. OP is pointing at differences in cultures, they do exist.

It sounded like the person I was responding to just wanted a lazy poo-poo soundbite. There are many examples of all of the countries mentioned making ridiculous/awful products and also amazing products.

Re: I hereby pardon all junior engineers

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has been my experience that there are good and bad engineers from all origins; Americans do not have a monopoly on it in either direction, nor does anyone else.

If you can't generalize then you can't think. Of course any affirmation can be turned down on the basis that it is not specific enough. OP is pointing at differences in cultures, they do exist.

> If you can't generalize then you can't think

If you blindly follow others' generalizations without question, you can't think.

Re: I hereby pardon all junior engineers

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post #7
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you can't generalize then you can't think. Of course any affirmation can be turned down on the basis that it is not specific enough. OP is pointing at differences in cultures, they do exist.

> If you can't generalize then you can't think If you blindly follow others' generalizations without question, you can't think.

Compression is a form of intelligence
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