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Re: PeerTube v6

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I still cannot grasp how supposedly tech literate HN users can't seem to understand the purpose of PeerTube. Do you have a company and do you want to self host your promotional videos? Make a PeerTube instance and embed them in your website. Do you have a conference and want to self host the recordings? Same Do you have an institution of any kind and want to self host the video material? Same. Nowhere it's touted as…

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Re: PeerTube v6

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Still has the same problem as all these alternative social media networks and why they're not taking off: on one hand you've got YouTube/etc which works and has appealing content front-and-centre, and on the other you have technobabble like "federation" and "instances" while the actual content (if there is even any!) is relegated into some dark corner. YouTube (and other mainstream providers) solves user stories. The…

Taking control of your digital life will always be unappealing because it means you have to do the drudge work. There is no possible escape from massive corporations.

Peertube takes under twenty minutes to set up. It's really, really not hard.

Re: PeerTube v6

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I still cannot grasp how supposedly tech literate HN users can't seem to understand the purpose of PeerTube. Do you have a company and do you want to self host your promotional videos? Make a PeerTube instance and embed them in your website. Do you have a conference and want to self host the recordings? Same Do you have an institution of any kind and want to self host the video material? Same. Nowhere it's touted as…

> Nowhere it's touted as a rival to youtube in the popularity sense, just like you wouldn't call WordPress a rival to Twitter. But I also wouldn't give it a name that, to the casual observer, makes it _sound_ like a rival to Twitter.

You mean a name like Tumblr

Re: PeerTube v6

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Still has the same problem as all these alternative social media networks and why they're not taking off: on one hand you've got YouTube/etc which works and has appealing content front-and-centre, and on the other you have technobabble like "federation" and "instances" while the actual content (if there is even any!) is relegated into some dark corner. YouTube (and other mainstream providers) solves user stories. The…

> YouTube (and other mainstream providers) solves user stories. The user story is "I want to find and watch interesting videos" and they nail it. You miss another user story: IT department wants to self host a video distribution platform on their intranet and users need to embed video in intranet CMS (blogs, wikis, kb, etc.) and they will watch those videos at home, at the office and in between places. Thinking audie…

> You miss another user story: IT department wants to self host a video distribution platform on their intranet and users need to embed video in intranet CMS (blogs, wikis, kb, etc.) and they will watch those videos at home, at the office and in between places.

It's not missed, that story doesn't exist.

In any place where IT can even think about self hosting video they likely control the user's entire tech stack and don't need a super flexible player, they can just use a video tag...

On the other hand a company like this is more likely to use a SaaS product because they would have done a cost benefit analysis and figured spinning up a server and allocating bandwidth which could include significant network stack upgrades would cost far too much money to self host video.

Also it's free to stick the video on YouTube as an unisted video and embed the player... There is also other platforms that can be paid for the exact same service...

Re: PeerTube v6

#125

I love the idea of this project. But unfortunately there are economic reasons that make PeerTube unlikely to win. It's not even about the cost of video hosting, it would apply even if hosting was free. Imagine yourself as a popular creator. You can put up your videos on an ad-free platform where users can watch them without distractions and be happy. Or you can put them on an ad-supported platform and get a cut of th…

It doesn't have to be ad-free, just someone has to have a nice interface and set up the advertisement/payments platform. There s clearly a market for advertising outside google: all those companies that sponsor videos. In fact it seems youtubers make more money from that than they make from google

So someone has to make the effort.

Re: PeerTube v6

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bittorrent is not a CPU hog. But peer-to-peer WebRTC video is a major hog that makes it a pain to share video with more than ~7 people. Is this also true for peertube?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s not true. A nonprofit/coop could in theory run single peertube instance.

Then you're beholden to it, and it will not be as lenient as Google is in some legal grey areas, because it cannot afford any legal liability. For example, it would ban Louis Rossmann after just one cease-and-desist from Apple, because it couldn't afford to withstand a SLAPP lawsuit from Apple. (A SLAPP lawsuit is when you sue someone who hasn't done anything wrong, because you're a big company who can afford to bank…

It's totally viable to create an entity in a jurisdiction where lawsuits are not automatically ruinous and stick to your principles.

On top of that, a small entity would not be as lenient about Google in terms of customer support or taking advantage of your personal data.

Re: PeerTube v6

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I still cannot grasp how supposedly tech literate HN users can't seem to understand the purpose of PeerTube. Do you have a company and do you want to self host your promotional videos? Make a PeerTube instance and embed them in your website. Do you have a conference and want to self host the recordings? Same Do you have an institution of any kind and want to self host the video material? Same. Nowhere it's touted as…

Relatedly, Mastodon is a) too hard for me to sign up for and b) a failed experiment. That the former was being repeated by people here still makes me chuckle.

Re: PeerTube v6

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Still has the same problem as all these alternative social media networks and why they're not taking off: on one hand you've got YouTube/etc which works and has appealing content front-and-centre, and on the other you have technobabble like "federation" and "instances" while the actual content (if there is even any!) is relegated into some dark corner. YouTube (and other mainstream providers) solves user stories. The…

Youtube could disappear or, more realistically, become heavily censored (internally or externally) at any time for a variety of reasons. The true value of this project and other federated or fully distributed and open source alternatives is to have a freedom friendly alternative should the need present itself.

Most end users don’t care about the “what if?” They care about the right now. What does this offer today?

Maybe I’m being unfair and this isn’t targeted at end users but professionals. Is that the case? Then the landing page makes a lot more sense.

Re: PeerTube v6

#130

I still cannot grasp how supposedly tech literate HN users can't seem to understand the purpose of PeerTube. Do you have a company and do you want to self host your promotional videos? Make a PeerTube instance and embed them in your website. Do you have a conference and want to self host the recordings? Same Do you have an institution of any kind and want to self host the video material? Same. Nowhere it's touted as…

What is the incentive to self host when embedding YouTube videos is free and easy? Peer tube might make it easy but it adds a lot of maintenance complexity and server costs. Is the avoiding risk associated with YouTube over the video control worth that cost? For some maybe, but most I imagine not.
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