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Re: PeerTube v6

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Post by sschueller »

errhead wrote: post #84
sschueller wrote: post #4

A bit of topic. I created a peertube client[1] for android a few years ago. I love peertube and I really believe in the project however the effort I have put into the client and the rewrite which I almost finished using jetpack/mvvm structure just doesn't seem to be worth it. I feel bad for abandoning it but I think I may have too. [1] https://github.com/sschueller/peertube-android

Sad to hear, but totally understandable. I'm sure the official app will need lots of contributors when it comes out next year.

Is there an official app in the works? I wasn't aware. Do you have a link?

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Post by WhitneyLand »

Almondsetat wrote: post #35

I still cannot grasp how supposedly tech literate HN users can't seem to understand the purpose of PeerTube. Do you have a company and do you want to self host your promotional videos? Make a PeerTube instance and embed them in your website. Do you have a conference and want to self host the recordings? Same Do you have an institution of any kind and want to self host the video material? Same. Nowhere it's touted as…

I think when you “cannot grasp how supposedly tech literate users can't seem to understand the purpose of” something, then sometimes you need to that as a signal and reevaluate.

Re: PeerTube v6

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Post by sproketboy »

Almondsetat wrote: post #35

I still cannot grasp how supposedly tech literate HN users can't seem to understand the purpose of PeerTube. Do you have a company and do you want to self host your promotional videos? Make a PeerTube instance and embed them in your website. Do you have a conference and want to self host the recordings? Same Do you have an institution of any kind and want to self host the video material? Same. Nowhere it's touted as…

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Re: PeerTube v6

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Post by nisa »

georgyo wrote: post #49
Klonoar wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but which platforms employ the power of the torrent protocol to distribute bandwidth so you can run with minimal costs? If TFA is to be believed, not PeerTube. ;P > We needed to settle a technical debt : v6 removes support for WebTorrent to focus on HLS. Both are technical bricks used to get peer-to-peer streaming in web browsers, but HLS is more fitted to what we are doing (and plan to do) with PeerTube

I did some testing of peertube a little over a year ago, and in practice you never used the webtorrent stuff anyway. The webtorrent always had a static http seed which is how videos played fast, but that web seed was usually more than capable of serving all the traffic. More so, it _must_ be capable of doing so because not all your clients will be able to support webtorrent effectively. In order to use a webtorrent,…

> At the point I'm pretty uncertain if a p2p web browser video app can exist and be usable enough to have people actually want to use it.

It's not webbrowser based but live torrent streams like acestream work really very well. Unfortunatly acestream is pretty shady and closed-source and associated with malware distribution and illegal sport streaming - but it looks like a modified python bittornado implementation. Porting this to webtorrent would be interesting as it would at least allow to share the bandwidth for live-streams. I assume from a technical point of view this is not impossible.

I'm not aware of any open source implementations for the browser.

Re: PeerTube v6

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Post by immibis »

fny wrote: post #58
immibis wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Taking control of your digital life will always be unappealing because it means you have to do the drudge work. There is no possible escape from massive corporations.

That’s not true. A nonprofit/coop could in theory run single peertube instance.

Then you're beholden to it, and it will not be as lenient as Google is in some legal grey areas, because it cannot afford any legal liability.

For example, it would ban Louis Rossmann after just one cease-and-desist from Apple, because it couldn't afford to withstand a SLAPP lawsuit from Apple. (A SLAPP lawsuit is when you sue someone who hasn't done anything wrong, because you're a big company who can afford to bankrupt them with legal fees)

Re: PeerTube v6

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Post by doublerabbit »

WhitneyLand wrote: post #92
Almondsetat wrote: post #35

I still cannot grasp how supposedly tech literate HN users can't seem to understand the purpose of PeerTube. Do you have a company and do you want to self host your promotional videos? Make a PeerTube instance and embed them in your website. Do you have a conference and want to self host the recordings? Same Do you have an institution of any kind and want to self host the video material? Same. Nowhere it's touted as…

I think when you “cannot grasp how supposedly tech literate users can't seem to understand the purpose of” something, then sometimes you need to that as a signal and reevaluate.

Reevaluate what exactly? OPs not wrong.

The newer crowds are so entwined with current CDNs/Stacks that their instant dismissal to a released product is wrong.

It's common display that unless it's using some $cloud $lang its an instant dismissal of "You shouldn't do that, cloud/saas does this!"

Nowadays folk don't understand the requirements of on-perm. The cloud aids but isn't a it-all.

Re: PeerTube v6

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Post by ploum »

johnchristopher wrote: post #43
Nextgrid wrote: post #5

Still has the same problem as all these alternative social media networks and why they're not taking off: on one hand you've got YouTube/etc which works and has appealing content front-and-centre, and on the other you have technobabble like "federation" and "instances" while the actual content (if there is even any!) is relegated into some dark corner. YouTube (and other mainstream providers) solves user stories. The…

> YouTube (and other mainstream providers) solves user stories. The user story is "I want to find and watch interesting videos" and they nail it. You miss another user story: IT department wants to self host a video distribution platform on their intranet and users need to embed video in intranet CMS (blogs, wikis, kb, etc.) and they will watch those videos at home, at the office and in between places. Thinking audie…

At some point, someone literate enough to understand how bad Big Tech is but still promoting Big Tech should be face it.

It is like smoking. People say "I know that smoking kill, I don’t want to be reminded all the time".

Well, as long as you are polluting and killing innocents by smoking in their vicinity, you are the asshole. You don’t seem to understand so people keep telling you (and, guess what, in the case of Peertube, they even tell you in a friendly way with cute mascots.)

Re: PeerTube v6

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Post by xd1936 »

> We needed to settle a technical debt : v6 removes support for WebTorrent to focus on HLS (with WebRTC P2P). Both are technical bricks used to get peer-to-peer streaming in web browsers, but HLS is more fitted to what we are doing (and plan to do) with PeerTube

Sad to see WebTorrent support go. I'm a big believer in the idea of Torrent over WebRTC, and PeerTube seemed like a great use of the technology. It really solves the "this video is going viral and I'm being hugged to death" problem. I haven't heard much about P2P HLS... Hope to hear more.

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