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Why did this study take so long? So much spent on war in the meantime
What calculus do you propose everyone uses to work out where the funds should be allocated? Who decides? How do we account for technology that was created as part of the war effort i.e. computers, jet engines, the internet etc?
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Some kind of external 'work' is necessary. War is the easiest form of such work, easiest meaning requiring the least momentum to get a society behind it. I would love to see us go to war on climate change, but that's not likely as long as we have charismatic politicians fighting to build a base by stirring hateful emotions. Whether that hate is against abortions, Palestinians, african-americans, muslims, or others. A…
Absolutely amazing. Hey kids we’re not killing enough innocent civilians and as a result people are beginning to follow “dreadful” people like elon musk. Do wars produce innovation? Sure. Is any of that innovation worth a single life? Bet ya wouldn’t think so if it was your loved one.
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Without war, societies implode; they get taken over. Keeping a society going means lots of ‘work’. Did the Egyptians, Macedonians, Romans, Mughal, etc., stand long on the shoulders of peace? It doesn’t happen. Why did Siberians come over to the Americas? To explore and spread peace? Populations encroach and you stand and fight or seek out new land. We've run out of new land so equilibrium is achieved through other me…
Are you implying that war is necessary?
Why did this study take so long? So much spent on war in the meantime
Without war, societies implode; they get taken over. Keeping a society going means lots of ‘work’. Did the Egyptians, Macedonians, Romans, Mughal, etc., stand long on the shoulders of peace? It doesn’t happen. Why did Siberians come over to the Americas? To explore and spread peace? Populations encroach and you stand and fight or seek out new land. We've run out of new land so equilibrium is achieved through other me…
Without war?
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Without war, societies implode; they get taken over. Keeping a society going means lots of ‘work’. Did the Egyptians, Macedonians, Romans, Mughal, etc., stand long on the shoulders of peace? It doesn’t happen. Why did Siberians come over to the Americas? To explore and spread peace? Populations encroach and you stand and fight or seek out new land. We've run out of new land so equilibrium is achieved through other me…
Are you implying that war is necessary?
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Absolutely amazing. Hey kids we’re not killing enough innocent civilians and as a result people are beginning to follow “dreadful” people like elon musk. Do wars produce innovation? Sure. Is any of that innovation worth a single life? Bet ya wouldn’t think so if it was your loved one.
First civilians aren’t always innocent, often they are active participants, out of necessity to survive, in war. Two, appeals to emotions don’t change the calculus of war on the level of a society. We are both individuals and a society. We have roles as both. People will go to war putting their own selves in harms way to protect ideals, family, whatever. Look at Ukraine. They could simply submit. Should they stop fig…
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Some kind of external 'work' is necessary. War is the easiest form of such work, easiest meaning requiring the least momentum to get a society behind it. I would love to see us go to war on climate change, but that's not likely as long as we have charismatic politicians fighting to build a base by stirring hateful emotions. Whether that hate is against abortions, Palestinians, african-americans, muslims, or others. A…
Absolutely amazing. Hey kids we’re not killing enough innocent civilians and as a result people are beginning to follow “dreadful” people like elon musk. Do wars produce innovation? Sure. Is any of that innovation worth a single life? Bet ya wouldn’t think so if it was your loved one.
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What calculus do you propose everyone uses to work out where the funds should be allocated? Who decides? How do we account for technology that was created as part of the war effort i.e. computers, jet engines, the internet etc?
Things that sustain life (intentionally) should take priority in my opinion.
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Absolutely amazing. Hey kids we’re not killing enough innocent civilians and as a result people are beginning to follow “dreadful” people like elon musk. Do wars produce innovation? Sure. Is any of that innovation worth a single life? Bet ya wouldn’t think so if it was your loved one.
"Hey kids, get ready to die because our society decided war is bad m'kay and now we don't have the ability to defend ourselves."
In fact I would argue unjustified war makes the citizens of the country waging the war even more vulnerable and not less.
You are not understanding the thread at all but not a huge shock at orange site.
User 1: we need war to facilitate “external work” and innovation.
User 2: innovation through war is true but is it worth the cost of innocent lives (ignoring the lmfao Elon comment)
Work on comprehending the conversation before adding drivel.
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Without war, societies implode; they get taken over. Keeping a society going means lots of ‘work’. Did the Egyptians, Macedonians, Romans, Mughal, etc., stand long on the shoulders of peace? It doesn’t happen. Why did Siberians come over to the Americas? To explore and spread peace? Populations encroach and you stand and fight or seek out new land. We've run out of new land so equilibrium is achieved through other me…
Are you implying that war is necessary?