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Re: PeerTube v6

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Post by Klonoar »

_heimdall wrote: post #36
Klonoar wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're not "advocating for voluntary censorship", they're simply pointing out that the Peertube (and the Fediverse in general) needs to avoid being the dredges of the internet.

I've never understood this concern with online platforms. It really shouldn't matter what content people publish if discover ability is user-driven. A Twitter alternative could be full of neo-nazis, butbif my feed is only populated with people I follow them I would never know or care.

Sure, but you may never have found yourself on Twitter to begin with if it was full of neo Nazis. It’s like showing up to an important meeting in the wrong attire - how you present matters.

The issue isn’t hiding it away - be it by user or other - it’s that it hampers growth in general when you’re all of a sudden the platform of the deranged. It’s fair to question whether it’s seeing actual use outside of those communities.

(It might be telling that we’ve spent this many comments discussing it rather than pointing out e.g GNOME/Blender/etc use it - it’s not like it’s all bad)

Re: PeerTube v6

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Post by RHSeeger »

Almondsetat wrote: post #35

I still cannot grasp how supposedly tech literate HN users can't seem to understand the purpose of PeerTube. Do you have a company and do you want to self host your promotional videos? Make a PeerTube instance and embed them in your website. Do you have a conference and want to self host the recordings? Same Do you have an institution of any kind and want to self host the video material? Same. Nowhere it's touted as…

> Nowhere it's touted as a rival to youtube in the popularity sense, just like you wouldn't call WordPress a rival to Twitter.

But I also wouldn't give it a name that, to the casual observer, makes it _sound_ like a rival to Twitter.

Re: PeerTube v6

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Post by immibis »

Almondsetat wrote: post #35

I still cannot grasp how supposedly tech literate HN users can't seem to understand the purpose of PeerTube. Do you have a company and do you want to self host your promotional videos? Make a PeerTube instance and embed them in your website. Do you have a conference and want to self host the recordings? Same Do you have an institution of any kind and want to self host the video material? Same. Nowhere it's touted as…

Mastodon is called an alternative to Twitter.

Re: PeerTube v6

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Post by immibis »

Nextgrid wrote: post #5

Still has the same problem as all these alternative social media networks and why they're not taking off: on one hand you've got YouTube/etc which works and has appealing content front-and-centre, and on the other you have technobabble like "federation" and "instances" while the actual content (if there is even any!) is relegated into some dark corner. YouTube (and other mainstream providers) solves user stories. The…

Taking control of your digital life will always be unappealing because it means you have to do the drudge work. There is no possible escape from massive corporations.

Re: PeerTube v6

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Post by immibis »

Klonoar wrote: post #27
lynx23 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wah, there is no Incel content on YouTube? What about Pearl Davis, or the flood of shorts extracted from this podcast I just cant remember right now? Personally, I much prefer a uncensored platform over arbitrary censorship by big tech. Without censorship, I can at least decide for myself if I want to watch it. In fact, I find it quite concerning that people like you seem to actively advocate for voluntary censorship…

They're not "advocating for voluntary censorship", they're simply pointing out that the Peertube (and the Fediverse in general) needs to avoid being the dredges of the internet.

That's impossible. When you let people host their own content some Nazis will host Nazi content, and there's nothing you can do about it because you are not the one hosting it. I guess we should ban HTTP so there can't be Nazi websites.

Re: PeerTube v6

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Post by lynx23 »

Klonoar wrote: post #27
lynx23 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wah, there is no Incel content on YouTube? What about Pearl Davis, or the flood of shorts extracted from this podcast I just cant remember right now? Personally, I much prefer a uncensored platform over arbitrary censorship by big tech. Without censorship, I can at least decide for myself if I want to watch it. In fact, I find it quite concerning that people like you seem to actively advocate for voluntary censorship…

They're not "advocating for voluntary censorship", they're simply pointing out that the Peertube (and the Fediverse in general) needs to avoid being the dredges of the internet.

And how would PeerTube avoid that, without actively censoring particular content? Ask nicely? Pray? Hope?

Re: PeerTube v6

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Post by Almondsetat »

immibis wrote: post #53
Almondsetat wrote: post #35

I still cannot grasp how supposedly tech literate HN users can't seem to understand the purpose of PeerTube. Do you have a company and do you want to self host your promotional videos? Make a PeerTube instance and embed them in your website. Do you have a conference and want to self host the recordings? Same Do you have an institution of any kind and want to self host the video material? Same. Nowhere it's touted as…

Mastodon is called an alternative to Twitter.

And?

Re: PeerTube v6

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Post by fny »

immibis wrote: post #54
Nextgrid wrote: post #5

Still has the same problem as all these alternative social media networks and why they're not taking off: on one hand you've got YouTube/etc which works and has appealing content front-and-centre, and on the other you have technobabble like "federation" and "instances" while the actual content (if there is even any!) is relegated into some dark corner. YouTube (and other mainstream providers) solves user stories. The…

Taking control of your digital life will always be unappealing because it means you have to do the drudge work. There is no possible escape from massive corporations.

That’s not true. A nonprofit/coop could in theory run single peertube instance.

Re: PeerTube v6

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Post by amelius »

Almondsetat wrote: post #35

I still cannot grasp how supposedly tech literate HN users can't seem to understand the purpose of PeerTube. Do you have a company and do you want to self host your promotional videos? Make a PeerTube instance and embed them in your website. Do you have a conference and want to self host the recordings? Same Do you have an institution of any kind and want to self host the video material? Same. Nowhere it's touted as…

It's because HN folks know that keeping a service running takes time and effort, and they can't believe that this is somehow a solved problem.

Re: PeerTube v6

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Post by madeofpalk »

Almondsetat wrote: post #35

I still cannot grasp how supposedly tech literate HN users can't seem to understand the purpose of PeerTube. Do you have a company and do you want to self host your promotional videos? Make a PeerTube instance and embed them in your website. Do you have a conference and want to self host the recordings? Same Do you have an institution of any kind and want to self host the video material? Same. Nowhere it's touted as…

How likely is it that my company's promotional videos will be federated to the extent that it'll actually reduce my bandwidth cost by a non-trivial amount? Will hosting videos like this increase reliability or reduce it? I genuinely don't know - i've never used it - but it would be far from my first pick for this kind of stuff.

> but which platforms employ the power of the torrent protocol to distribute bandwidth so you can run with minimal costs?

You mean apart from S3? https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonS3/latest/API/API_GetObjec...

> Amazon S3 does not support the BitTorrent protocol in AWS Regions launched after May 30, 2016.

oh.

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