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Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

blibble wrote: post #663
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #649

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>there's a minimum salary requirement; previously this didn't apply to labour from the EU, now it does Excuse me but how is this the EU's fault and not the UK's own fault for not enforcing some sort of minimum wages before? Where I live now in Austria, there are legally require minimal salary bands negotiated yearly by unions for every profession, so no matter where you come from for work, an employer here is mandate…

> Investors invested a lot in the UK post 2014 because being part of the EU was a big selling point. Who knows how it will play out now that the UK is isolated and with open borders. I'm sure the working class are devastated that foreign investors have potentially lost money > Excuse me but how is this the EU's fault and not the UK's own fault for not enforcing some sort of minimum wages before? it has one? you have…

>it has one?

Then it was a very poorly implemented one that obviously does not work.

>I'm sure the working class are devastated that foreign investors have potentially lost money

Who's the one responding in bad faith here? Investors aren't just the stereotypical Monopoly Man smoking cigars in his top hat while driving his convertible in central London.

Investors means all the companies opening up shop in the UK creating jobs for those working class people: semiconductor, auto manufacturers, aerospace, metal work, med tech, electronics, etc. Outside of the EU, the UK becomes less attractive to open up jobs there by international investors.

You clearly have no understanding what "investment" means and instead responding in bad faith to invisible straw men with a chip on your shoulder.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

sgift wrote: post #654
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #649

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>there's a minimum salary requirement; previously this didn't apply to labour from the EU, now it does Excuse me but how is this the EU's fault and not the UK's own fault for not enforcing some sort of minimum wages before? Where I live now in Austria, there are legally require minimal salary bands negotiated yearly by unions for every profession, so no matter where you come from for work, an employer here is mandate…

> So, what stopped the UK from enforcing minimum salary bands on all workers instead of going through the extreme self flagelatory route of leaving the EU and loosing out on the EU membership benefits instead? You might say that would have been difficult and complex to implement, but so was Brexit and that came with pain on the side. It's really easy. Germany has a minimum wage. Everyone has to get it. End of story.…

>and politicians who got pressured by their donors to keep the cheap labor as long as possible looked around and "uh ... its ... uh ... the EU is at fault!"

Spot on. All the problems the UK was complaining about were entirely self inflicted but also entirely fixable internally without having to leave the EU.

The EU was not stopping the UK form fixing it's shit, like implementing minimum wages or expelling illegal migrants, the same way the EU wasn't stopping Germany, Austria, Netherlands, Finland, etc. from taking care of their internal matters much better than the UK has.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by account42 »

_cenw wrote: post #194
bad_user wrote: post #100

I keep seeing Edge mentioned as a worthy alternative, and I just don't get it. First, all Chromium-based browsers will eventually block uBlock Origin for the sole reason that they can't maintain Manifest v2 on their own, and they all rely on Chrome's Web Store anyway. This won't happen immediately because Manifest v2 will probably stick around for longer because of enterprise users, but the writing is on the wall. Th…

People who don't see the problem with Edge must all be domain joined or on Pro for Workstations / Enterprise. Supposedly the browser doesn't annoy "confirmed" business customers as much. I recently switched to the RC Insider ring just to get the EU digital markets update, which lets you uninstall Edge. Because it started doing incredibly creepy stuff. * Keeps asking me every day if I want to keep my new tab extension…

> I don't feel confident any browsing data on a Windows machine is private unless you install the above Release Candidate and set your Region to EU to uninstall Edge.

You are still coping thinking you can somehow outplay Microsoft. You can't. Stop using software made by obviously hostile entities.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by account42 »

runiq wrote: post #341
bad_user wrote: post #100

I keep seeing Edge mentioned as a worthy alternative, and I just don't get it. First, all Chromium-based browsers will eventually block uBlock Origin for the sole reason that they can't maintain Manifest v2 on their own, and they all rely on Chrome's Web Store anyway. This won't happen immediately because Manifest v2 will probably stick around for longer because of enterprise users, but the writing is on the wall. Th…

None of that is a problem in Firefox.

If only that were true.

> Then there's the fact that Edge is just Microsoft's spyware, being worse in my book than Google's Chrome. And people forget that Microsoft is also an advertising company. Even if that's not their main revenue source, they also hate your ad-blockers.

People forget that Mozilla is also almost exclusively funded by the advertisement industry. They have also experimented with including ads directly in the browser on multiple occasions. Including ones force pushed though a back door (experiments).

> And in true Microsoft spirit, it also has telemetry, which you can't turn off.

While you can turn of Telemetry in Firefox it is on by default and new channels are being added all the time which are again on by default.

Mozilla is controlled opposition with the emphasis being on controlled with opposition being more of a formality.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by account42 »

closeparen wrote: post #583
bad_user wrote: post #100

I keep seeing Edge mentioned as a worthy alternative, and I just don't get it. First, all Chromium-based browsers will eventually block uBlock Origin for the sole reason that they can't maintain Manifest v2 on their own, and they all rely on Chrome's Web Store anyway. This won't happen immediately because Manifest v2 will probably stick around for longer because of enterprise users, but the writing is on the wall. Th…

"Legitimate interest" is a different basis from "consent." It doesn't matter whether you agree to it or not, you aren't empowering anything that wasn't already going to happen.

You are empowering them by continuing to use the service/application after they have quite clearly told you that they are going to try to work around the law against your interests.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by account42 »

zare_st wrote: post #511
mariusmg wrote: post #184

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Yeah, you're switching browsers not 3D modelling software. It's easy people. Switch to Firefox today.

Absolutely monster analogy. After working for a year in 3DSMax, back in the day, someone asked me to show them something in Lightwave. I couldn't find my way about anything. There is also a far far bigger difference between IDEs than between browsers even if compare only the big names. Compare Visual Studio, IntelliJ and Eclipse. All the browsers are same. They were all the same for 10 years. Single window or MDI. Th…

> All the browsers are same.

Which really is a shame. Even worse, browsers (including Firefox) keep erasing whatever differences they do have in a vain attempt at attracting Chrome users while ignoring that their existing userbase chose them for not being Chrome.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by account42 »

williamdclt wrote: post #628
RunSet wrote: post #564

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Firefox has made it unnecessarily difficult to customize the new tab. You can have it blank or you can have Firefox recommendations. Those are your options. https://i.imgur.com/U13r7pG.png This resembles a dark pattern to push users toward Firefox recommendations, a moneymaker.

There’s extensions to change the new tab page

It's absurd that it needs an extension. Another example of how Firefox no longer acts as a user agent.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by account42 »

jklinger410 wrote: post #591
MikeRichardson wrote: post #488

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Oh, ok. So next time I get one of those full page ads that darkens the entire page - I should just concentrate really hard at reading the barely visible content. Maybe it will go away if I scroll really really fast.

This is the fault of the web developer and designers, not advertisers. Let's be clear on who to blame.

Blame can lie on multiple parties.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by s3p »

rattray wrote: post #678
volsa wrote: post #478

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> Or if you're on macOS, give Arc a try. Tried it and immediately deleted the app again. Seriously, asking users to create an account which isn't skippable is just plain dumb?

I disagree with this decision by Arc, and had the same reaction you did, but I just want to note that I'm very glad I gave it another shot months later – it really is a fantastic browser, much better than FF or Chrome.

As someone who hasn't used Arc, can you explain how it's better than FF?

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by jnsaff2 »

michaelt wrote: post #700
sgift wrote: post #655

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> Ah yes, you've just reminded me of one of the other issues: Some Remain campaigners had difficulty engaging with people who were on the fence about the EU without calling them ignorant yokels. In other words: The truth hurt. And out of spite they cut off their own nose. Well, whatever works for them.

> In other words: The truth hurt. There it is again. Let's not engage with the person in an economically deprived area who suspects that increasing the supply of workers might lower wages, or the person who's struggling to afford a house who suspects that increased demand for housing might raise prices. Unfortunately the remain campaign seemed to have very few people who could engage with the substance of such argume…

Obviously the villains are the bad faith actors who tried to sell leave no matter what. How do you deal with those?

But people who voted enacted their agency so they don't get a free pass. They let themselves fooled and pulled the trigger. Is it their fault? Who knows. But the ones pulling the trigger don't get a free pass.

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