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Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by zxt_tzx »

volsa wrote: post #616
zxt_tzx wrote: post #579

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I understand why you feel this way, but this seems to be the trend for all the latest generation of "polished" software and I think they do this so they can retain users. (Another example that comes to mind is Warp, the terminal written in Rust.) To be fair, as an Arc user, by logging in, I can keep my tabs synced perfectly across my personal and work laptops, which is worth it for me.

> [...] I think they do this so they can retain users. They lost me as a potential user within the first 10 seconds and I'm probably not the exception here. No idea how you want to retain users if you lose them before they even get to test your software. > To be fair, as an Arc user, by logging in, I can keep my tabs synced perfectly across my personal and work laptops, which is worth it for me. I can do that with Fi…

> I can do that with Firefox, Chrome, Brave or any other browser as well without being forced to create an account.

Oh I use Chrome too, I was under the impression that you have to sign into Google to sync bookmarks, but I guess your point is the login/account creation steps come afterwards?

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by zxt_tzx »

tentacleuno wrote: post #598
zxt_tzx wrote: post #579

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I understand why you feel this way, but this seems to be the trend for all the latest generation of "polished" software and I think they do this so they can retain users. (Another example that comes to mind is Warp, the terminal written in Rust.) To be fair, as an Arc user, by logging in, I can keep my tabs synced perfectly across my personal and work laptops, which is worth it for me.

> (Another example that comes to mind is Warp, the terminal written in Rust.) Sorry, do you mean there's a terminal emulator out there which forces you to login? I'm hoping you mean it provides auxiliary (optional) functionality with a login.

> do you mean there's a terminal emulator out there which forces you to login?

Haha yes indeed that's what I meant, I suspect this is only going to become more common whether we like it or not

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by ryan-c »

robertlagrant wrote: post #407
ryan-c wrote: post #229

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Roads don't get replaced with ones which are incompatible with unpopular cars on a regular basis.

They have $400m coming in every year - surely enough to keep up with main changes if engineering were prioritised, with a large stash to invest for the future. But still - what reality is there to face? At absolute worse we...switch browser in 10 years?

Idiots still do user agent checks and block anything they don't explicitly support.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by vinay_ys »

rattray wrote: post #678
volsa wrote: post #478

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> Or if you're on macOS, give Arc a try. Tried it and immediately deleted the app again. Seriously, asking users to create an account which isn't skippable is just plain dumb?

I disagree with this decision by Arc, and had the same reaction you did, but I just want to note that I'm very glad I gave it another shot months later – it really is a fantastic browser, much better than FF or Chrome.

..much better in what way?

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by vinay_ys »

halostatue wrote: post #588
Isthatablackgsd wrote: post #566

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I found Edge to be useful for Enterprise/Business environment. My previous job uses Office 365 E3 (and their email server) and entrenched with them for various external services such as MS Authenticator for SSO. It is easier use Edge for SSO since I don't need to keep typing out the complex password for my job. Whenever the password prompt show up in Edge, I click my work email account and it automatically log me in.…

I use Edge (on macOS) only for Teams. I use Chrome only for Google Meet & the like. I use Firefox for Zoom and when I encounter a website that misbehaves on Safari (and for a couple of things that I need to use that are wholly separate from the rest of my browsing experience). Otherwise, I use Safari. The original article's assertion that Safari does not respect your privacy is so far from the truth that the rest of…

This!

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by medo-bear »

jacquesm wrote: post #577
medo-bear wrote: post #558

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> they somehow believe that as smaller countries in a much larger world that they would be able to do better than as a bloc Yeah colonies too would have been economically much better off today had they not experimented with national liberation, but thats not how people think. They dont want to be paying taxes to a place they see as foreign. Nor do they want foreigners telling them how to do things. You are aware we a…

I'd rather be dominated in a political arena than in a military one, which is pretty much the alternative. At least as it is the small countries can throw their weight behind the larger one that has their interests most at heart. As far as colonies are concerned, that's a very thorny issue and also even further off-topic, and for NL (where I'm from) it is a very much embarrassing issue.

I wonder if it is embarassing enough to return all the benefits of imperialist plunder to their original owners. Or pay restitution to all places where NL was involved in slave trading.

Anyway, as far as EU is concerned it is not off topic. Many of the smaller countries (even some big ones) within the EU were once seen as rightful spheres of influence/dominance by the old European imperial powers. You dont have to go outside the continent to talk about national liberation. Do you remember how WWI started?

Centralization is not without its dangers. Take for example Yugoslavia. This was a very decentralized federal republic in which constituent republics, nationalities, and autonomous regions, had a pretty big political autonomy. During late 80s Serbian politician Slobodan Milosevic led a movement that tried to centralize the government. He argued that it would make the country more efficient and better capable to address economic problems. Serbs were the numerically dominant nationality of Yugoslavia. Serbians supported centralization, non Serbs didnt. A very bloody war ensued and the country fell appart.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by subtra3t »

wccrawford wrote: post #543
subtra3t wrote: post #541

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In what section does it say it's opt-out? Not doubting your statement, just that I don't see it any of the sections I looked through. If you mean the sponsored ads on the New Tab page, then yes they are indeed opt-out. But the person who I responded found the browser pop-ups annnoying. That is a part of Brave Rewards. The New Tab page ads are not a part of Brave Rewards unless you explicitly enable that in the settin…

Do I have to participate in Rewards in order to use Brave? You do not need to participate in Rewards in order to enjoy Brave. However, note that sponsored images on the New Tab Page are on by default, but can easily be disabled. (If you enable Brave Rewards, you will earn for the New Tab Page sponsored images you see.)

The sponsored images you are referring to are not a part of Brave Rewards, not by default. GP was referring to pop-up ads, which are a part of Brave Rewards and are opt-in.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by subtra3t »

agentgumshoe wrote: post #468
subtra3t wrote: post #163

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I use Vivaldi (and firefox before that) but a reason to use Edge is because it's supposedly very resource-efficient.

What percentage of users actually, really care how marginally more efficient their web browser is these days?

I'm not saying that many users will care about their browser's performance. I'm just saying that that is a potential reason to use Edge.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by jpc0 »

shiroiuma wrote: post #671
jpc0 wrote: post #426

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> but then they get mad when people don't look at the ads They aren't tracking your eyes and pause the video if you aren't watching the screen. Not saying they wouldn't do that if it was feasible... They are annoyed that you are actively preventing them from playing out the ads in the first place, and they offered an alternative, to pay for not having the ads, at what is in my opinion a very reasonable price concider…

Or, I can simply decline to watch (or even load) the ads, just like I decline to look at the ads in those tissue packs that are given to me on the street. I have no moral obligation to watch any ads on video that is freely shown in response to a normal HTTP GET request.

Just don't join the gaggle complaining about your adblocker randomly no longer working or YouTube randomly blocking the page till you disable it and were all good.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by malermeister »

esperent wrote: post #675
malermeister wrote: post #439

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The latest Firefox now has that functionality. Firefox translations also have the added benefit of being 100% on-device, your data doesn't have to go to a Google server somewhere.

... for an extremely limited number of European languages. Great to see progress though.

Yup - it's definitely not perfect yet. Getting there though :-)
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