Starlink will only operate in the Gaza Strip with the approval of Israel
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Re: Starlink will only operate in the Gaza Strip with the approval of Israel
#12Not terribly surprising given that Gaza is legally part of Israel. AFAIK the only place where Starlink is operating illegally is Iran (where presumably Elon has no business interests that can be threatened).
Israel denies that they are occupying the strip, so it’s hard to say that even Israel is claiming it as legally theirs.
Re: Starlink will only operate in the Gaza Strip with the approval of Israel
#13Not terribly surprising given that Gaza is legally part of Israel. AFAIK the only place where Starlink is operating illegally is Iran (where presumably Elon has no business interests that can be threatened).
You mean legally part of Israel from Israel’s perspective, right? AFAIK neither the west bank nor the gaza strip are recognized as legitimate territories of Israel under international law but I admittedly know very little about international law :)
Re: Starlink will only operate in the Gaza Strip with the approval of Israel
#14Not terribly surprising given that Gaza is legally part of Israel. AFAIK the only place where Starlink is operating illegally is Iran (where presumably Elon has no business interests that can be threatened).
Not the government. Not the courts.
The Israeli government has, until the "disengagement", insisted in court regularly that Gaza was under belligerent occupation.
This was an important stance for them as claiming it as Israeli territory would give petitioners reasons to ask courts to apply Israeli civilian law. Israeli courts have accepted this stance many times over the years.
By claiming this, any annexation would be a war crime (but to be clear, Israel has never claimed to annex Gaza, on the contrary, Israel has claimed it has ended the occupation and given up control - a claim that is not uncontroversial given the level of control it still exerts)
[EDIT: And, unironically expect this deal and Karhi's statements to feature in future lawsuits as evidence that Gaza is still under belligerent occupation; this will matter greatly, especially now, as an occupying power has humanitarian legal responsibilities that can be challenged in Israeli courts if Israeli courts were to agree there is evidence Israel is still an occupying power]
So under which authority is Gaza legally part of Israel?
Re: Starlink will only operate in the Gaza Strip with the approval of Israel
#15Not terribly surprising given that Gaza is legally part of Israel. AFAIK the only place where Starlink is operating illegally is Iran (where presumably Elon has no business interests that can be threatened).
You mean legally part of Israel from Israel’s perspective, right? AFAIK neither the west bank nor the gaza strip are recognized as legitimate territories of Israel under international law but I admittedly know very little about international law :)
Re: Starlink will only operate in the Gaza Strip with the approval of Israel
#16"However, he admitted that he turned off internet access from his Starlink satellites during a Ukrainian raid last year on a Russian naval fleet."
This is horseshit. The geoblocks those the boats just careened in to were in place for a long time before, and limited to not allow access in Russia due to US sanctions! What Elon was asked to do, was to break the regulations his company is working beneath to create a major new offensive, against the then-current mindset of how US supplied Ukraine in long-term capabilities. Elon said explicitly that if it actually came through the proper channels, and not some random Ukrainian source, he would absolutely have made an exception and opened up those then-closed areas.
Re: Starlink will only operate in the Gaza Strip with the approval of Israel
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
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yawn33333 good nite thanks for playing dfc. No one over here feels superior to anyone. Again more assuming non intelligence demonstrated. With great power comes great responsibility. He hasn't demonstrated any of that.
Re: Starlink will only operate in the Gaza Strip with the approval of Israel
#18Not terribly surprising given that Gaza is legally part of Israel. AFAIK the only place where Starlink is operating illegally is Iran (where presumably Elon has no business interests that can be threatened).
The Oslo accord gives Israel right to control the airspace, but also gives the pale stone the right to operate an airport. So the accord does not give Israel sovereignty over the land. Israel denies that they are occupying the strip, so it’s hard to say that even Israel is claiming it as legally theirs.
Re: Starlink will only operate in the Gaza Strip with the approval of Israel
#19This whole article should be pulled. It's (possibly intentionally) just inventing lies on key issues. "However, he admitted that he turned off internet access from his Starlink satellites during a Ukrainian raid last year on a Russian naval fleet." This is horseshit. The geoblocks those the boats just careened in to were in place for a long time before, and limited to not allow access in Russia due to US sanctions! W…
There's no clear evidence when the geoblock went into place, we only know the date the Ukrainians first tried to use it.
The geoblock included Ukrainian waters, so the sanctions argument can't be true
Re: Starlink will only operate in the Gaza Strip with the approval of Israel
#20This whole article should be pulled. It's (possibly intentionally) just inventing lies on key issues. "However, he admitted that he turned off internet access from his Starlink satellites during a Ukrainian raid last year on a Russian naval fleet." This is horseshit. The geoblocks those the boats just careened in to were in place for a long time before, and limited to not allow access in Russia due to US sanctions! W…
Even Elon's strongest defenders must admit he explicitly says all sorts of things that turn out not to be true. His statements aren't strong evidence either way. There's no clear evidence when the geoblock went into place, we only know the date the Ukrainians first tried to use it. The geoblock included Ukrainian waters, so the sanctions argument can't be true
There's 0% chance for a location in as deep as Crimea that it wouldn't have been blocked at the time. Why keep pushing a wholly inverted view as if the blocks were somehow TURNED ON just as the Ukranian attack ships were moving in? The only thing one can reasonably think of being behind that skew is the persistent misinformation war against Musk as it not just goes against his word but common logic.