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My toddler loves planes, so I built her a radar

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Re: My toddler loves planes, so I built her a radar

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So many people say: "Don't take young kids abroad, they won't really remember those travels." BS. I took my son to Brazil, it was great, we got on a $1 cab ride, got on a pirate ship, endless alpine slide after the aerial tram, and went to the Botanical Garden in Rio. (He did say: "that day was totally boring, we didn't do anything!", but I know it was the greatest day of his life, and I can point out all those thing…

It's a mixed bag really, whatever you do with them has to be memorable for them. My wife is super into travel, our kids (teenagers) have been travelling internationally every year of their life from birth, sometimes multiple times a year.

What do they remember? Almost nothing before they were 10 years old. A core memory here or there, but they can't even recall entire trips from then. But I've always just considered it as part of their development. Maybe they don't have actual memories, but who can say how else it developed their brains?

Re: My toddler loves planes, so I built her a radar

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Love the simplicity.

> ”A Learjet at 40,000 feet shows up the same as an AirBus that just took off at London City Airport, however it’s a lot easier to spot the jumbo jet in the real sky.”

When I use FlightRadar24, I actually see different icons for jumbo jets vs Learjets vs prop planes - so they do not show up the same for me.

Maybe the author means altitude is not distinguished per this quote:

> ”I added some simple log scaling to the map annotations using the altitude of the flight so higher up aircraft appear larger on-screen.”

After downloading the app, planes high in the sky overlap/hide planes lower to the ground. I wonder if color coding the planes would have been better than using different size planes to indicate altitude.

Eg brown/green planes mean close to the ground, and blue planes mean high in the sky. Then have all planes the same size, and use different plane icon shapes for distinguishing commercial jet vs private jet vs prop

Re: My toddler loves planes, so I built her a radar

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post #122

So many people say: "Don't take young kids abroad, they won't really remember those travels." BS. I took my son to Brazil, it was great, we got on a $1 cab ride, got on a pirate ship, endless alpine slide after the aerial tram, and went to the Botanical Garden in Rio. (He did say: "that day was totally boring, we didn't do anything!", but I know it was the greatest day of his life, and I can point out all those thing…

It's a mixed bag really, whatever you do with them has to be memorable for them . My wife is super into travel, our kids (teenagers) have been travelling internationally every year of their life from birth, sometimes multiple times a year. What do they remember? Almost nothing before they were 10 years old. A core memory here or there, but they can't even recall entire trips from then. But I've always just considered…

I don’t think it really matters where they go, as long as they enjoy themselves there.

My 5yo regularly flies across the world back to my home country, but it’s just another place to him. The important thing is that his uncle is there, not that it’s on the other side of the world.

There’s no concept of going to the other side of the world, beyond it taking ”a very long time” to get there. And why would it? The plane might as well be a teleporter.

Re: My toddler loves planes, so I built her a radar

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post #122

So many people say: "Don't take young kids abroad, they won't really remember those travels." BS. I took my son to Brazil, it was great, we got on a $1 cab ride, got on a pirate ship, endless alpine slide after the aerial tram, and went to the Botanical Garden in Rio. (He did say: "that day was totally boring, we didn't do anything!", but I know it was the greatest day of his life, and I can point out all those thing…

Very off topic, but I +1 this. I am half and half and as a baby and young kid we went to one spot every summary. To this day I remember these travels. They matter a lot indeed.

I mean, I’m not half, and I never went further than +/- 200 km from my hometown until I was 23 years old, but we did go on vacation somewhere every year.

I _still_ remember all that travel too. It was different enough to make a lasting impression.

99% of our life is spent in the same 2 sqkm area, so it’s not super surprising that everything else is different.

Re: My toddler loves planes, so I built her a radar

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post #122

So many people say: "Don't take young kids abroad, they won't really remember those travels." BS. I took my son to Brazil, it was great, we got on a $1 cab ride, got on a pirate ship, endless alpine slide after the aerial tram, and went to the Botanical Garden in Rio. (He did say: "that day was totally boring, we didn't do anything!", but I know it was the greatest day of his life, and I can point out all those thing…

Even if my kids forget them all, I won't.

The first time we traveled internationally with our kids (a 5-year-old and nearly-2-year-old twins), my wife and I assumed the kids wouldn't really care, but we'd go anyway because we didn't want to give up international travel for a few decades just because we have kids.

They absolutely loved it. Now the 5-year-old is 15, they've been joined by a couple more siblings, and (Covid-execepted) we've gone on at least one international trip every year.

One of my favorite lines from one of my favorite books is in "A River Runs Through It" when the narrator says, "When I was young, a teacher had forbidden me to say "more perfect" because she said if a thing is perfect it can't be more so. But by now I had seen enough of life to have regained my confidence in it."

I recently went through a decade of photos to see if I could unearth memories of the "more perfect" moments in my life. Nearly all of them were on those trips with my kids.

There's something uniquely "us against the world" about international travel as a family. Not that we approach the world antagonistically, but just in that traveling across borders, and making our way through airports, and figuring out unfamiliar mass transit systems, and navigating unfamiliar cities in languages we don't speak requires a level of coöperation we're not usually called upon to exhibit as a family.

I'm sure there are times it's brought out the worst in us, but they're far, far outweighed by the times it brings out the very best parts of being a family.

Re: My toddler loves planes, so I built her a radar

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you :) Both very valid points. I think if I was clever with timing and angles the first one is definitely doable. The second one woudl be even simpler - the API returns flight velocity so I can even calculate this from one data point

I suggest adjusting your gradient so they don't fully fade out until just before the sweep hits them, or maybe even only down to 10%, so they only get wiped by the bar. It'll make it much easier to watch a plane if it doesn't keep disappearing entirely.

On the other hand, if you want maximum realism, everything should fade continuously from when it is drawn.

The underlying technology being imitated here is a slowly decaying phosphor.

Re: My toddler loves planes, so I built her a radar

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Advice for a wholesome activity with your daughter: Bring her to the closest road/parking lot/park at the inbound end of your closest international airport runway (Typically this changes based on wind direction). Park and watch the planes come in and land. She can use her "radar" to see which planes are coming in (we used flightradar24). My kids were FLOORED how close the planes get to the ground on approach - especi…

And if you're in the D.C. area, Gravely Point is the place for this. Feels like you can count the rivets for planes on either departure or landing.

For Logan airport in Boston, Revere Beach is one place with a pretty good view of airliners, and is short walk from the Blue Line.

You can also see a bunch of other places on a map that line up with runways: South Boston (including Castle Island), East Boston, and a bit further from Logan is the harborwalk around Long Wharf and the aquarium. (The aquarium might also be interesting to kids. There's some free viewing windows for a little of it, while walking past, to maybe gauge interest before paying admission. And there's various tourist things in that area, including various harbor boat rides.)

A camera/cameraphone with >1x lens will get them a closer look at planes. Or binoculars/monocular if you want to reduce screen time, or to encourage appreciating it in the moment rather than trying to capture it. (What kind of hearing protection works for kids?)

Re: My toddler loves planes, so I built her a radar

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Advice for a wholesome activity with your daughter: Bring her to the closest road/parking lot/park at the inbound end of your closest international airport runway (Typically this changes based on wind direction). Park and watch the planes come in and land. She can use her "radar" to see which planes are coming in (we used flightradar24). My kids were FLOORED how close the planes get to the ground on approach - especi…

Not quite the same as your suggestion but SFO has a Sky Terrace pre-security that you can go and watch planes from.

Re: My toddler loves planes, so I built her a radar

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post #122

So many people say: "Don't take young kids abroad, they won't really remember those travels." BS. I took my son to Brazil, it was great, we got on a $1 cab ride, got on a pirate ship, endless alpine slide after the aerial tram, and went to the Botanical Garden in Rio. (He did say: "that day was totally boring, we didn't do anything!", but I know it was the greatest day of his life, and I can point out all those thing…

Along with taking pictures, they'll probably remember it better if you make a scrapbook for each trip and look at it every so often after getting back.
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