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Tesla isn't demanding the postal union to ship them the plates, they are demanding to be allowed to pick up the plates by themselves.
Pick up the plates from whom ? They don't just teleport into a stack in the parking lot of the post office on their own. A pickup would involve employees . Who are members of the union .
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PostNord is a private business owned by Sweden and Denmark. Unless there are specific laws to the contrary, its employees have the same right to strike as any other private sector employees. (More generally, postal services in the EU tend to be structured as businesses these days, because they are in direct competition with various courier and package delivery services.) Also, while the employees may be on strike, ma…
Why aren't Tesla suing PostNord instead?
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If a company is legally required to use PostNord and PostNord can legally refuse to deliver mail, it effectively gives PostNord the power to control any company that wants to continue receiving mail. Regardless of whether they are using that power for good or evil here, I don't think it's a power they should have.
Why not? They're a private company. Isn't that usually what Americans are telling people, that corporations are free to serve who they please? But, more importantly, PostNord isn't doing anything - it's a unionised group of workers refusing to deliver Tesla products. That's how strikes work, and Musk's go-to course of action is to immediately proceed to legal action rather than negotiating and meeting the union's req…
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Why not? They're a private company. Isn't that usually what Americans are telling people, that corporations are free to serve who they please? But, more importantly, PostNord isn't doing anything - it's a unionised group of workers refusing to deliver Tesla products. That's how strikes work, and Musk's go-to course of action is to immediately proceed to legal action rather than negotiating and meeting the union's req…
> They're a private company. How does a private company get the benefits of being legally required? That seems like a benefit that only a public company should have.
I had wondered whether "sympathy strikes" would have some effect here about a month ago[1]. Looks like it did. Though I wouldn't have guessed this pretty genius angle of blocking the only contractual way to get number plates. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37916074
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If they're treated like garbage, why don't they quit?
Ask that to an Amazon warehouse or a 3rd world factory worker. Quit and do what? Starve? Become homeless? Destroy the little of what is left of your family's stability? Lose access to treatment of your health condition(s)? Die? Perhaps if there was some way to survive in this world without relying on a greater force to put a roof over your head and bread on your table, then anyone could quit without being compelled t…
I had wondered whether "sympathy strikes" would have some effect here about a month ago[1]. Looks like it did. Though I wouldn't have guessed this pretty genius angle of blocking the only contractual way to get number plates. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37916074
I don't know if "genius" is the word. It doesn't seem that creative, it's just nasty.
Not overly knowledgeable on Swedish law, but the idea that a public sector union can decide to block public services (in this case postal delivery of license plates) for a single company as a sympathy strike seems pretty nuts to me. Pretty sure Sweden would lose in European court at least (of course it would probably take a long time to percolate there).
It screams corruption to me, this definitely sounds like one political group has infiltrated the governmental services and has gotten enough power to begin publicly target people/groups that they oppose.