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X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says

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Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says

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Post by Volundr »

stainablesteel wrote: post #114
Volundr wrote: post #67

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> freedom of speech is the most upheld As long as you don't want to talk about decolonization ( https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1725645884409401435 ) or people being cis-gender ( https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1671370284102819841 ) or whatever else Elon doesn't like this week. For the record, neither or these things are what he claims they are.

one is a call for genocide, undeniably. the cis thing is whatever, it should be allowed and it is. but if you use it to harass someone, same as if you used other slurs, it would be taken as harassment. this isn't insane for an online platform.

I deny that decolonization is a call for genocide.

So does Webster's and Wikipedia.

Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says

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Post by wtfwhateven »

josteink wrote: post #122
babypuncher wrote: post #83

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the only conservative views I've ever seen get "censored" are those pertaining to race, gender, and sexual orientation. You know, areas where some modern conservatives like being discriminatory assholes. I've never seen someone get censored for promoting small government or low taxes.

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Predictable retort

Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says

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Post by babypuncher »

josteink wrote: post #122
babypuncher wrote: post #83

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the only conservative views I've ever seen get "censored" are those pertaining to race, gender, and sexual orientation. You know, areas where some modern conservatives like being discriminatory assholes. I've never seen someone get censored for promoting small government or low taxes.

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phrenology is not real science.

neither are the claims that intersex people don't exist, or that homosexuality is some choice that goes against what nature intends.

my dad makes a lot of these dumb arguments, and then doesn't believe me when i explain that there are disorders which cause people to have a missing sex chromosome, or body parts that don't match their chromosomes, or try to explain how gender dysphoria works and is treated, or even that gender as a social construct is separate from sex as a biological facet. he's not using science to back up these opinions, he's just an old man with dated views and hides behind the "basic biology" rhetoric.

it's funny how the real world consensus among actual scientists and doctors does not conform with conservative politics here.

Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says

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Post by ThalesX »

Volundr wrote: post #127
ThalesX wrote: post #111

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That's like... his opinion man. Try posting your own, see if you get banned like the Twitter of old.

The owner of Twitter literally said I'll get suspended. What more do you need?

> Clear calls for extreme violence are against our terms of service and will result in suspension.

I don't disagree with this stance... I need some substantial proof that posting your opinion without calling for extreme violence is going to get your suspended.

Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says

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Post by gordian-mind »

Volundr wrote: post #67
ThalesX wrote: post #12

X is the best social media platform out there at this point. What are the alternatives? Meta's Facebook, Instagram? TikTok? It's just bollocks. X is where a lot of interesting people post, and where freedom of speech is the most upheld. Community notes is also a super interesting aspect. It's not X's fault someone follows nazis or whatever and don't know where the mute / block buttons are.

> freedom of speech is the most upheld As long as you don't want to talk about decolonization ( https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1725645884409401435 ) or people being cis-gender ( https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1671370284102819841 ) or whatever else Elon doesn't like this week. For the record, neither or these things are what he claims they are.

I've seen cis used in a dehumanizing way, as a slur. He's clearly right about this. Don't call out people's unchangeable identities by terms they don't want you to.

Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says

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Post by dawnerd »

babypuncher wrote: post #83
josteink wrote: post #55

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the only conservative views I've ever seen get "censored" are those pertaining to race, gender, and sexual orientation. You know, areas where some modern conservatives like being discriminatory assholes. I've never seen someone get censored for promoting small government or low taxes.

And in fact many people complaining about censorship before the takeover and shouting their hateful views still ended up in trending all the time. IMO there wasn’t enough moderation and there’d be times accounts very clearly in violation of the terms not get suspended.

Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says

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Post by wtfwhateven »

babypuncher wrote: post #133
josteink wrote: post #122

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phrenology is not real science. neither are the claims that intersex people don't exist, or that homosexuality is some choice that goes against what nature intends. my dad makes a lot of these dumb arguments, and then doesn't believe me when i explain that there are disorders which cause people to have a missing sex chromosome, or body parts that don't match their chromosomes, or try to explain how gender dysphoria w…

That's because science is leftist propaganda run by the new world order!!

or something

Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says

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Post by davidw »

theultdev wrote: post #77
davidw wrote: post #50

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People have replicated the results. Which isn't surprising, given how much trash content that place has these days. Also: does anyone think those big accounts just up and left after one shoestring organization published something? They most likely replicated the results themselves.

Yes you can replicate it by following very controversial accounts and business accounts and scrolling a lot until you find an ad and a controversial statement beside each other, as the logs show they did. It doesn't represent an actual experience though, it's deliberate and misleading since that curation was left out of the report.

Giant companies like Apple don't just do something like that on a complete whim based on a report from a relatively tiny organization.

Probably also has something to do with the kinds of ugly stuff the owner of Twitter has been boosting lately.

Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says

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Post by stainablesteel »

lolbase wrote: post #116
stainablesteel wrote: post #106

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even if this is true, whatever you know what isn't banned now? having centrist, or even right wing opinions you can also see the violence and terrorism that the mainstream media refuses to report on there's a lot of political voices that are being allowed to speak finally, whereas before they've been stifled due to political persecution coupled with insane deplatforming. X as a free speech platform is doing a great j…

Can you please name some right wing opinions that used to be banned, and is no longer banned? Be specific.

right wing or oppositional, you decide

that covid came out of a chinese lab, or showing that the lockdowns didn't work as was shown by Jay Bhattacharya early on

accounts that were censored, shadowbanned, and massively decreased in exposure. just look up the twitter files.

since being owned by elon there's also been a rush of psychometricians into twitter, people who want to share and talk about their scientific data, which was banned before. you couldn't talk about IQ.

there were also people banned for challenging immigration narratives or gender ideology. this was prevalent and obvious. lauren southern was constantly accused of shooting a gun at an immigrant ngo ship that was actually just a flare - incapable of hitting or hurting anyone.

all of this was blatant and widespread on more than just twitter, did you not notice?

Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says

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Post by theultdev »

davidw wrote: post #138
theultdev wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes you can replicate it by following very controversial accounts and business accounts and scrolling a lot until you find an ad and a controversial statement beside each other, as the logs show they did. It doesn't represent an actual experience though, it's deliberate and misleading since that curation was left out of the report.

Giant companies like Apple don't just do something like that on a complete whim based on a report from a relatively tiny organization. Probably also has something to do with the kinds of ugly stuff the owner of Twitter has been boosting lately.

Don't they? Well they all did at once after the relatively tiny report.

Well anyway, let's all continue speculating...

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