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which provincial healthcare systems? And which were doing antibody testing on every admission?
Covid-19 3rd leading cause of death among Canadians in 2022
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If you're going to make these claims could you source them?
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#23The number by COVID is 19,716. Euthanasia is absent on here but is 13,241 for context. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia_in_Canada
Regardless of one's opinions on if MAID is a good idea, it seems unfair to regard it as a "cause of death". Wouldn't that be more correctly attributable to the underlying condition?
Midazolam, Propofol and Rocuronium or Cisatracurium overdose at 13,241 is an acceptable cause of death. You'd best consider COVID-19 to be asphyxiation, low blood oxygen or natural causes.
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#24>Complications of medical and surgical care Is the ~30th cause of death in Canada. In US it's the ~3rd. Why the order of magnitude difference? Is US healthcare 10x more incompetent or are these stats massaged?
I wouldn't be surprised if many people in the US just don't go back to the hospital when they get infections etc from surgery because of the medical bills.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Regardless of one's opinions on if MAID is a good idea, it seems unfair to regard it as a "cause of death". Wouldn't that be more correctly attributable to the underlying condition?
No, if one ends their life prematurely by suicide, then suicide is the cause of death.
But that's not helpful for driving any kind of informed opinion or public health policy.
It'd be like classifying nearly all deaths as caused by "cardiac arrest" even though that's the natural end state of most other causes of death.
I might accept your argument in the small fraction of cases where natural death is not "reasonably foreseeable" (since that requirement was dropped in 2019).
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#26Died "with covid" or "of covid"..? Hmm ...
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#27>Complications of medical and surgical care Is the ~30th cause of death in Canada. In US it's the ~3rd. Why the order of magnitude difference? Is US healthcare 10x more incompetent or are these stats massaged?
Complications of medical and surgical care isn't in the top 10 for US.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm
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#29Current stats for US:[1] Hospital admissions are up to 3x the August-September low. Deaths are way down, though. The vaccines really do work against deaths, and the newer variants are less lethal. Understanding of long COVID at the cellular level is just beginning, but there is progress.[2] [1] https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_weeklyhospi... [2] https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.08.09.22278…
> the newer variants are less lethal.
Is this true, or does just about everyone have at least some residual immunity from infection/vaccination?
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#30>Complications of medical and surgical care Is the ~30th cause of death in Canada. In US it's the ~3rd. Why the order of magnitude difference? Is US healthcare 10x more incompetent or are these stats massaged?
It's possible that more low-probability-of-success heroics are attempted in the US (especially on the elderly). It would line up with the system level incentives differences between the two places and it would produce the difference you mention.