No change for me. I had to stop using Apollo (and Narwhal sucks) but using the browser is fine with me. I signed up for the $60/yr. Ad-free version and Reddits still great IMO.
Ask HN: What was the outcome of Reddit blackout?
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Re: Ask HN: What was the outcome of Reddit blackout?
#412The end result was a stalemate. Reddit did not change any of its policies. Enough of the people responsible for posting and managing content left the platform to cause a noticeable impact on it. Here's a fun thing to look at, https://subredditstats.com/ for any major subreddit, e.g.: https://subredditstats.com/r/worldnews https://subredditstats.com/r/explainlikeimfive https://subredditstats.com/r/videos All of the mo…
That's not a stalemate, reddit just won.
Re: Ask HN: What was the outcome of Reddit blackout?
#413Re: Ask HN: What was the outcome of Reddit blackout?
#414Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you see the main issues inherent to Lemmy as likely to be remediable?
IMO, all code can be fixed. Especially if large groups of people agree upon the problems with the code. Its the politics / contradictions at the social level that leads to true difficulties. Mastodon has proven that these moderation issues can be solved. The question is if the Lemmy devs (and community) can politically agree that Mastodon-like moderation tools are a good idea to prioritize. That's where I'm worried.…
Re: Ask HN: What was the outcome of Reddit blackout?
#415The next result is that I noticed I became less argumentative in real life and tend to keep my opinions to myself more, all in all much appreciated by those I love. And my mental health is better.
The next result is that in going back occasionally to scroll through reddit it seems MUCH more obvious to me that almost every post is designed to incite anger, controversy or judgment. It didnt feel nearly that obvious before.
And there are some clear indications that bots are running rampant. Especially r/AITA (Am I The Asshole) where EVERY post is now almost exactly the same length, written about some situation that is quite stupid or rage inducing that its hard to believe that anyone would bother to respond. But they do. Im guessing they have an intern pounding away at ChatGPT for 10 minutes to create the next 100 AITA's
Lastly, Ive migrated to tildes.com, and much smaller community where I was/am startled to see that people can communicate politely even when they disagree and rage baiting does not exist. Its not nearly as busy as reddit was and the topics are far more limited but the quality is miles above the poor posts that now permeate reddit.
Re: Ask HN: What was the outcome of Reddit blackout?
#416Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did you participate in the blackout? What was your impression of it? Were any of the tools you used impacted by the API ban? I think a much more effective strategy would be a user-led LLM "spamming" campaign. Package up a lightweight, easy to use LLM for Windows users and let them turn their accounts into noise. Purposely generate overly-argumentative, blatantly wrong prose on every subject and in every subreddit. Re…
> I think a much more effective strategy would be a user-led LLM "spamming" campaign. Also hugely immoral. If you don't like Reddit and decide to not use it: fine, your choice, obviously. But completely fucking over a platform because you don't like it? That's an entirely different thing. Who are you exactly to decide how Reddit runs it site? This is just a DDoS attack, but in a slightly different form.
Reddit and its userbase have always been on the activist spectrum (SOPA, PIPA, CEO changes, API changes, etc.) And before it, Digg was much the same. Given the fact that they'll brigade r/Place with automation tools and protests, I'm surprised it hasn't happened in the form of a broader protest.
Re: Ask HN: What was the outcome of Reddit blackout?
#417Earlier quoted context omitted.
IMO, all code can be fixed. Especially if large groups of people agree upon the problems with the code. Its the politics / contradictions at the social level that leads to true difficulties. Mastodon has proven that these moderation issues can be solved. The question is if the Lemmy devs (and community) can politically agree that Mastodon-like moderation tools are a good idea to prioritize. That's where I'm worried.…
Do you think Lemmy be re-established or forked in a similar sense in which Lemmy itself is a "fork" of Reddit, if that makes sense?
Lemmy isn't a "fork" of Reddit, as much as it was just a Fediverse thing that existed and happened to become popular in-and-around the Reddit blackout.
The Fediverse-model is good. Mastodon is good, but a poor-fit for people looking for things like Reddit. I think what Lemmy is, and what the Lemmy-users want Lemmy to become, remain an open-question.
Some of these problems also apply to kbin.social. I expect different "Reddit-like Fediverse replacements" to spring up, implement competing solutions, fork, die out, etc. etc. over time. This is the nature of all things open source.
The only way to figure things out is to write code and try it out. Its not like anyone really knows what they're doing here, its a lot of guess-and-check and experimentation. And that's fine.
I think we've more or less recognized that communities built around volunteer moderators have needs that Reddit has failed at (and likely will fail again in the future). Building alternative solutions is an open question in general.
Lemmy for now, remains the forerunner. But I can imagine Kbin.social taking over if they make the right decisions (or if Lemmy developers "pulls a Reddit" and forces another migration).
Re: Ask HN: What was the outcome of Reddit blackout?
#418My personal result was quitting 10 years on reddit and giving up my worthless but substantial karma. The next result is that I noticed I became less argumentative in real life and tend to keep my opinions to myself more, all in all much appreciated by those I love. And my mental health is better. The next result is that in going back occasionally to scroll through reddit it seems MUCH more obvious to me that almost e…
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Seven months ago:
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One year ago:
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The end result: if you want to karma farm or make a hot topic, just search for something that was posted 6+ months ago.
Re: Ask HN: What was the outcome of Reddit blackout?
#419Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, several of the more technical subs that I used to frequent either just never reopened or splintered off to Lemmy. Some (like /r/Android) actually have entire instances. I personally wrote a userscript to wipe every post comment I've ever made, and have limited my usage to a few particular subs that I still lurk (/r/LocalLLaMA in particular) just bc Lemmy still doesn't seem to have a comparable level of activity…
Since you mentioned r/android, I wanted to ask - have you noticed a drop in quality post the blackouts? There was a point of time when I had read nearly every post there, and all posts would either have 100+ upvotes or would get removed. Now there appear to be tons of low upvote (while legitimate) posts.
Sure, foldables exist, but they're still out of a typical user's price range and are more fragile than either of the things they're replacing. And while personally I more just lost track of it because my last couple of devices have been carrier-locked initially, custom ROMs have gotten to be substantially more of a pain in the ass to daily-drive. Not only has Google opted to mostly let the core applications rot in favor of ones that depend on the Google Play libs, but SafetyNet is now being used for everything from DRM to anti-cheat. (Not that I should be picking up a Fate: G/O habit anyway, but still.)
I do have hope for things in this space to get interesting again -- I think the full potential of GKIs is more of a long-term bet, and I think the landscape for Android on larger screens is a lot better this time around -- but I'm also just as interested in any way I can get my old devices running Linux at this point instead. (I am aware of PostmarketOS, but my OP7T doesn't have a port yet, and mainlining a device is as daunting a research dive as it is fascinating.)
To more directly answer your question though, you might want to check Lemdroid (lemdro.id) if you haven't already.
Re: Ask HN: What was the outcome of Reddit blackout?
#420Earlier quoted context omitted.
I imagine that will be the upcoming drama after the looming "payout reddit karma" drama passes over. Reddit's been hostile to NSFW posts and I think at some point soon-ish (1-2 years) they are going to pull a tumblr as well. That will be when the site really starts to die. I just hope the fediverse or any other alternative is preparing itself for that next big drama. Because I feel it's a matter of when at this point…
> I just hope the fediverse or any other alternative is preparing itself for that next big drama. Because I feel it's a matter of when at this point, not if. The question is, does the Fediverse want this level of responsibility? Moderating ordinary content is hard enough, moderating porn is worse because of all the legal liability: various countries have extremely strict laws regarding access of minors (e.g. Germany)…
But at the same time, I doubt all instances will clamp down and ban it. It brings a lot of traffic and I'm sure many moderators have strong free speech vallues and will defend it under that banner. It's extra work but some will take it up. There will most definitely be NSFW-dedicated instances in the worst case.