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Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

tentacleuno wrote: post #601
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #435

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But that wasn't an objective analysis, that's just your highly opinionated opinion with which I found some flaws in, as in you're wrong about several statements. >Google's Chrome does not do this, and searching on google.com only asks for sharing of data with Google itself. You mean sharing your data with Google THE ad-company which then shares your data to advertisers? How is that any more private? >And in true Micr…

> No it's not, you can change it. Aside from the big blue Bing button in the user-chrome (and the MS sidebar), and the fact that switching your search engine in Edge involves jumping through a surprising amount of hoops, as opposed to Chrom[ium/e]. I haven't counted the number of steps, but it's definitely more than Chromium-based browsers -- they seem to have intentionally buried it in Settings (it's right at the bo…

>switching your search engine in Edge involves jumping through a surprising amount of hoops

Settings -> Privacy, search and services -> Address bar and search

3 steps are "jumping through a surprising amount of hoops" for you?

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by gorhill »

Timber-6539 wrote: post #292

With uBlock Origin working as it works best on Firefox, I get a 3-5 sec lag on launch [0] as it prepares the browser to block ads. With Chrome, the launch happens in an instant. I should also mention that Firefox has always had a slow start up time on my machine. While am sure there is a setting to turn the uBlock feature off, it probably won't make enough of a difference to beat Chrome's start up time. [0] https://g…

> I get a 3-5 sec lag on launch [0] as it prepares the browser to block ads.

uBO is typically ready in a fraction of second, so "3-5 sec" is not normal. In Firefox all extensions sit in the same process, so it's possible another extension is preventing uBO to be ready in a timely manner, this has happened[1].

[1] https://github.com/MetaMask/metamask-extension/issues/13163

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by blibble »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #537
smsm42 wrote: post #521

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There's a difference between saying "it's possible to exist without EU - see countries X and Y as an example" and "if we leave EU we will turn immediately into country X or Y". The first is reasonable argument, the second is completely ridiculous.

There is a difference indeed, but that difference was completely ignored when the referendum slogans were shouted precisely to lie to people that if they left the EU they would be in the same position as Switzerland and Norway which is an appealing prospect.

> when the referendum slogans were shouted precisely to lie to people that if they left the EU they would be in the same position as Switzerland and Norway which is an appealing prospect.

no-one ever said this

they were used as examples of countries that are successful despite being outside the EU

not that the UK would "be in the same position" if it left, i.e. becoming 10x richer per capita or starting to mass produce cuckoo clocks

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by Ir0nMan »

masfoobar wrote: post #148

I have been a happy Firefox user for 15 years... maybe more. I have seen people use and complain Internet Explorer in my younger days, from version 6 to 7, etc. Even though I mention Firefox to them, they stay with IE. What amazes me is how quick they transitioned to Google Chrome when it released. This was around 2009. It amazes me how quick people jump to something especially when it has a big company behind advert…

>What amazes me is how quick they transitioned to Google Chrome when it released

I'm not sure how old you were at the time but do you really remember that history well and did you compare the two browsers yourself at the time? I was a die hard Firefox user from the beginning until Chrome came out. I remember trying Chrome for the first time and being amazed at how much faster it was. Not just a little faster, way faster and how it could handle more tabs without slowing down. It was so far superior performance wise and that is what got me and many others to switch.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by gorhill »

olavgg wrote: post #236
vbezhenar wrote: post #170

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I'm using Safari for day-to-day browsing (because I like its UI and iPhone sync) and I use Chrome for development. Firefox developer tools are not as convenient to me and Firefox does not support WebUSB which I need for some tasks. Also I always found Firefox filled with little irritating bugs when I tried to switch to it. That said, I'm not convinced by this flashmob against Chrome. I like Google direction and Googl…

Most people don't need features like WebUSB support. But I do believe people want uBlock to intercept http requests before rendering the web page. And from my understanding this has always been supported in Firefox, but never in Chrome. I have used Firefox forever, I never switched to Chrome as it knew it never was fully open-source. The point of open source is that you're able to build the thing from sources with th…

> uBlock to intercept http requests before rendering the web page. And from my understanding this has always been supported in Firefox, but never in Chrome.

The webRequest API does allow to intercept and cancel HTTP requests, it has been part of Chrome extensions API since 2011.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by Obscurity4340 »

rollcat wrote: post #398

The article is bollocks. Recommending Pale Moon in 2023 is plain irresponsible. No process isolation/sandboxing for tabs/websites/addons, playing constant catch-up with Firefox on implementing security fixes/mitigations (made more difficult by how far back the fork has happened), disregarding all the optimizations that brought Firefox closer to being on par with Chrome (which translates to higher power usage). In my…

Librewolf ftw, or Orion

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by blibble »

jacquesm wrote: post #502
blibble wrote: post #496

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> But leaving the EU doesn't automatically turn your country into Switzerland or Norway like the UK expected. this was never expected or mentioned by anyone

Hm. It actually was. One of the major reasons the UK left the EU is because it would turn the UK into the financial center that it once was not having to deal with all these pesky EU regulations on financial markets. Small detail: it was the EU acting on behalf of the US that was the foundation for a lot of these regulations (mostly the fall out of a couple of really bad episodes) and Switzerland, one of the few hold…

> One of the major reasons the UK left the EU is because it would turn the UK into the financial center that it once was not having to deal with all these pesky EU regulations on financial markets.

total rubbish, almost 100% of the City were pro remain, with maybe a handful of people/firms as leavers

I was on a trading floor that day, and the impotent rage at the "wrong" result was present from everyone, from the interns upto the MDs

what I imagine most of the Dutch went through last week

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by williamdclt »

RunSet wrote: post #564
williamdclt wrote: post #486

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It continues to surprise me that people don't make their "new tab page" useful, it's probably the page you see the most everyday. Make it your own, put your bookmarks in there or whatever is useful (I use https://start.me/ )

Firefox has made it unnecessarily difficult to customize the new tab. You can have it blank or you can have Firefox recommendations. Those are your options. https://i.imgur.com/U13r7pG.png This resembles a dark pattern to push users toward Firefox recommendations, a moneymaker.

There’s extensions to change the new tab page

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by allarm »

zxt_tzx wrote: post #579
volsa wrote: post #478

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> Or if you're on macOS, give Arc a try. Tried it and immediately deleted the app again. Seriously, asking users to create an account which isn't skippable is just plain dumb?

I understand why you feel this way, but this seems to be the trend for all the latest generation of "polished" software and I think they do this so they can retain users. (Another example that comes to mind is Warp, the terminal written in Rust.) To be fair, as an Arc user, by logging in, I can keep my tabs synced perfectly across my personal and work laptops, which is worth it for me.

No, I’m not even going to give it a try; mandatory login for a browser or a terminal app (!!!) is nonsense.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by gkbrk »

k8svet wrote: post #179
gkbrk wrote: post #150

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He doesn't want a completely new browser instance, he wants Firefox to open another window but depending on its mood Firefox refuses to do this. Chrome can do this just fine btw. Running Firefox from the command line isn't an obscure thing either, clicking a link on other apps like Signal or Telegram also use this method to spawn new tabs/windows. And depending on how you executed the first instance, you run into pro…

No. Sorry. I have a list of complaints with Firefox but this is clearly user error. I do this literally every day for a decade or more. It works fine. It particularly helps to not unnecessarily use things that can affect the env like launching a browser with su. In fact I can I think it a list of things that could go wrong with that.

Yes, sorry. This is a Firefox bug and not user error.

On my Linux system, this works with any other browser I try. It only fails with Firefox. If this is user error, it seems every other browser handles user errors much better.

- Firefox: First window is open, running `firefox URL` from the other terminal hangs for 15-20 seconds and then shows the popup "Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To use Firefox, you must first close the existing Firefox process, restart your device, or use a different profile.". No new tabs or windows are spawned.

- Chromium: First window is open, running a `chromium URL` command from the other terminal opens a new tab on the existing window.

- Microsoft Edge: First window is open, running a `microsoft-edge-stable URL` command from the other terminal opens a new tab on the existing window.

- Ladybird: First window is open, running `ladybird` in the other terminal opens a new ladybird window.

- Emacs/eww: First window is open, running `emacs --eval '(eww "example.com")'` on another terminal opens a new browser window.

- Netsurf: First window is open, running `netsurf URL` from the other terminal opens a new netsurf window.

- Dillo: First window is open, running `dillo URL` from the other terminal opens a new dillo window.

- Links/XLinks: First window is open, running `xlinks -G URL` from the other terminal opens a new links window.

You can see a clear pattern. Got any other browsers that refuse to run with a message like that? Or is this not a fault of Firefox, and something super extra that everything from other mainstream browsers to more obscure ones somehow handle for the user?

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