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Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by 93po »

jamespo wrote: post #130
luc4 wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What? We're not refusing to "pay other software companies a few bucks for their engineering work", we refuse to give in to the extortion attempts of a greedy multi-billion dollar company. I have and will keep financially supporting software I find useful. However, I do agree that it's questionable whether you can easily replace Google as a source of funding.

It's hardly extortion, watching Youtube isn't a human right

Google has massively anti-competitive practices, and especially with Youtube. They have made an explicit effort to kill competition in the online video space and have been very successful at it. We are now left, as a result of Google's malicious actions, with a single realistic option of platforms for video content creators. To have Google take these actions, then force us with the decision of "let us shove ads and tracking down your throat" or "miss a massive part of important media available, including for professional and educational reasons", feels pretty bad to me. Maybe extortion isn't the best word, but it's super shitty.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by 93po »

papichulo2023 wrote: post #110
izacus wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, attacking the source of revenue that sustains a project is always a sensitive prospect. But then again, what's the alternative for Mozilla? In case of YouTube Premium we've clearly seen that even HN software engineers, demanding six figure pay, will refuse to pay other software companies a few bucks for their engineering work. Where does Mozilla find funding to sustain itself elsewhere?

It doesnt help that Mozilla waste a lot of money on useless projects

It's weird how people criticize Mozilla for taking Google money, but also criticize them for their attempts to diversify away from that.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by closeparen »

bad_user wrote: post #100

I keep seeing Edge mentioned as a worthy alternative, and I just don't get it. First, all Chromium-based browsers will eventually block uBlock Origin for the sole reason that they can't maintain Manifest v2 on their own, and they all rely on Chrome's Web Store anyway. This won't happen immediately because Manifest v2 will probably stick around for longer because of enterprise users, but the writing is on the wall. Th…

"Legitimate interest" is a different basis from "consent." It doesn't matter whether you agree to it or not, you aren't empowering anything that wasn't already going to happen.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by starky »

utybo wrote: post #283

Please, Firefox, for the love of everything, add a good, easy, natively integrated, one-click-to-enable vertical tab list like Edge's. That's the only thing keeping me on Microsoft Edge and it's a dealbreaker for me. The extensions that add ones are just not as good.

Vertical tabs aren't a good reason to stick with Edge. Vivaldi is better and supports vertical tabs, but is still Chromium. If you want a Firefox based browser with vertical tabs there is Floorp.

I tried to switch to switch to Floorp and while it is pretty good, there are things like tab pinning and tiling that work so much better in Vivaldi (compared to every other browser I've tried) that keeps me there.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by jklinger410 »

bad_user wrote: post #100

I keep seeing Edge mentioned as a worthy alternative, and I just don't get it. First, all Chromium-based browsers will eventually block uBlock Origin for the sole reason that they can't maintain Manifest v2 on their own, and they all rely on Chrome's Web Store anyway. This won't happen immediately because Manifest v2 will probably stick around for longer because of enterprise users, but the writing is on the wall. Th…

> I keep seeing Edge mentioned as a worthy alternative, and I just don't get it.

Bing (now Copilot) acts like a premium version of ChatGPT in Edge. It is context aware, and gives you access to GPT4 (not turbo), for free.

Edge is also very tied in with Live services, which if you primarily use those, it gives you the most bang for your buck there.

It also has some nifty features that are a mixed bag compared to other browsers, but may be missing from Chrome or Firefox.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by jklinger410 »

mort96 wrote: post #352
eloisant wrote: post #246

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The way profiles (or tab containers) work in Firefox sucks compared to Chrome honestly. I could never find a way to open in the correct profile from external applications.

I find it annoying how I need a separate window for each profile in Chrome, I like that I can have one window and some windows are in the work container and some are not. You do need the (official) containers extension though.

> I find it annoying how I need a separate window for each profile in Chrome

I find it way more useful to have a completely unique profile rather than bash everything together in Firefox. Profile specific extensions, for instance, don't work with container tabs. It's a non-starter for me.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by michaelt »

jacquesm wrote: post #576
michaelt wrote: post #562

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> Do they follow EU parliamentary proceedings and do they understand how EU law interacts with local law? Although I didn't vote for Brexit myself, I've spoken to a number of Brexit supporters. While they might not know the precise details, they know that a "Constitution for Europe" was rejected by French and Dutch voters in 2005, it was changed into a "Reform Treaty" in 2007 which meant most countries' voters didn't…

> While they might not know the precise details, they know that a "Constitution for Europe" was rejected by French and Dutch voters in 2005, it was changed into a "Reform Treaty" in 2007 which meant most countries' voters didn't get a vote on it, and after Irish voters rejected that, they had to have a second referendum on the same treaty the year after. But that's fine isn't it? After all, if we didn't get a 'Consti…

> But that's fine isn't it?

To a Brexit supporter, the French, Dutch and Irish people were all opposed to the constitution/treaty, and other countries would have rejected it as well if their referendums hadn't been cancelled, and yet it was forced through anyway by a body that considers voters an inconvenience to be worked around.

When Brexit supporters call the EU 'undemocratic' this is what they are referring to.

Of course, that's not the only reason for Brexit. British politicians deserve a reasonable portion of the blame; for several decades prior to the vote they could straddle the fence on issues like immigration, by telling people "we can't do anything, it's the EU"

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by halostatue »

Isthatablackgsd wrote: post #566
bad_user wrote: post #100

I keep seeing Edge mentioned as a worthy alternative, and I just don't get it. First, all Chromium-based browsers will eventually block uBlock Origin for the sole reason that they can't maintain Manifest v2 on their own, and they all rely on Chrome's Web Store anyway. This won't happen immediately because Manifest v2 will probably stick around for longer because of enterprise users, but the writing is on the wall. Th…

I found Edge to be useful for Enterprise/Business environment. My previous job uses Office 365 E3 (and their email server) and entrenched with them for various external services such as MS Authenticator for SSO. It is easier use Edge for SSO since I don't need to keep typing out the complex password for my job. Whenever the password prompt show up in Edge, I click my work email account and it automatically log me in.…

I use Edge (on macOS) only for Teams.

I use Chrome only for Google Meet & the like.

I use Firefox for Zoom and when I encounter a website that misbehaves on Safari (and for a couple of things that I need to use that are wholly separate from the rest of my browsing experience).

Otherwise, I use Safari.

The original article's assertion that Safari does not respect your privacy is so far from the truth that the rest of the article is questionable.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by jklinger410 »

masfoobar wrote: post #148

I have been a happy Firefox user for 15 years... maybe more. I have seen people use and complain Internet Explorer in my younger days, from version 6 to 7, etc. Even though I mention Firefox to them, they stay with IE. What amazes me is how quick they transitioned to Google Chrome when it released. This was around 2009. It amazes me how quick people jump to something especially when it has a big company behind advert…

> I just don't understand why people would use Chrome. Most people, I guess, just dont care about their privacy.

I can't think of a single way using Chrome and therefore having "less privacy" has affected me negatively.

In fact, having an internet that just works has allowed me to be more productive.

I'd love for someone to articulate how cookies or tracking has actually harmed them in any way.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by eloisant »

ghusto wrote: post #436
eloisant wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The way profiles (or tab containers) work in Firefox sucks compared to Chrome honestly. I could never find a way to open in the correct profile from external applications.

You don't need profiles in Firefox, there's a much better solution called Container Tabs. If you're using profiles to keep things like work and play separate, check it out and thank me later ;)

Yes I checked container tabs, but they still don't fix my issue.

- I click on a Google Doc work link from Slack, I want it to open in my work profile

- I click on a Google Doc link from the WhatsApp desktop app, I want it to open in my home profile

With Chrome I just need to make sure that the last focused Chrome window is from the right profile.

I really want to switch back to Firefox but that's blocking me.

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