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Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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vasvae3 wrote: post #212
nomilk wrote: post #73

FWIW I got annoyed with chrome's distracting home screen, and pondered how long it would take for a 10+ year chrome user to switch to firefox. The answer (on macOS) was 5 minutes. I was shocked how easy it was (and, frankly, how similar it was). When you first open firefox, it gives options to import all your chrome settings (including saved passwords etc). Super cool.

You are annoyed with chrome's distracting home screen that shows your most visited sites but you are not annoyed with firefox's distracting home screen that shows your most visited sites plus some ads?

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Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by moonleay »

joshlk wrote: post #208

What’s the website support of Firefox like? I tried switching to Safari last year and a small minority of websites didn’t work as expected. Even though it was small, it was a big enough problem that I switched back to Chrome.

Good. Personally, I haven’t encountered any big issues with FF yet, just the occasional bug in the web version of ms teams.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by Timshel »

iamacyborg wrote: post #136
timenova wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not just about being able to pay. Free YouTube: You can watch with ads and you are tracked. YouTube Premium: You can watch without ads but you're still tracked. YouTube with an Ad Blocker: You can watch without ads and without being tracked. Google's largest chunk of revenue comes from ads. Being tracked simply means you'll be shown targeted ads in other areas apart from YouTube if you pay them. They shouldn't c…

Youtube can still track you even if you use an ad blocker.

Yes but it means keeping identifying informations to a minimum. Vs giving your credit card information when going premium ...

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by TheCapeGreek »

gkbrk wrote: post #150
TheCapeGreek wrote: post #106

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So what's wrong with Super+N? I'm struggling to see the need for a completely new browser instance when you only want another window.

He doesn't want a completely new browser instance, he wants Firefox to open another window but depending on its mood Firefox refuses to do this. Chrome can do this just fine btw. Running Firefox from the command line isn't an obscure thing either, clicking a link on other apps like Signal or Telegram also use this method to spawn new tabs/windows. And depending on how you executed the first instance, you run into pro…

I have never had Firefox do this. I've used all 3 major OS types in the last 5 years and Firefox on all of them. New windows open, no muss no fuss.

>I pretty much need to open Firefox first before clicking links on other apps, because otherwise I can't run Firefox normally later without killing the process.

The only way I imagine this happening is if one doesn't save the browser session between launches, maybe? I've had "cold start" link opens and it just adds another tab to my existing pinned tabs/open tabs/etc.

Everyone has different workflows I suppose.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by olavgg »

vbezhenar wrote: post #170
masfoobar wrote: post #148

I have been a happy Firefox user for 15 years... maybe more. I have seen people use and complain Internet Explorer in my younger days, from version 6 to 7, etc. Even though I mention Firefox to them, they stay with IE. What amazes me is how quick they transitioned to Google Chrome when it released. This was around 2009. It amazes me how quick people jump to something especially when it has a big company behind advert…

I'm using Safari for day-to-day browsing (because I like its UI and iPhone sync) and I use Chrome for development. Firefox developer tools are not as convenient to me and Firefox does not support WebUSB which I need for some tasks. Also I always found Firefox filled with little irritating bugs when I tried to switch to it. That said, I'm not convinced by this flashmob against Chrome. I like Google direction and Googl…

Most people don't need features like WebUSB support.

But I do believe people want uBlock to intercept http requests before rendering the web page. And from my understanding this has always been supported in Firefox, but never in Chrome.

I have used Firefox forever, I never switched to Chrome as it knew it never was fully open-source. The point of open source is that you're able to build the thing from sources with the exact functionality as in binary file they release.

The web is extremly important for everyone, and it is important that we still build an open web for everyone. When people use projects like Chrome, they let Google decide the direction of the web, just like Microsoft did with IE.

That Firefox was sometimes slower than Chrome and sometimes lacked features has never been a big productivy hit for me. Neither has web pages that didn't work in Firefox. In the worst cases I just need to start Chromium. I lose max 1 minute. That is nothing to sacrifice for keeping the web open.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by JonathanBeuys »

iinnPP wrote: post #172
JonathanBeuys wrote: post #109

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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38429815

Can you do it in an alternate version such as the developers edition?

I don't want to install multiple browser versions.

I just want to launch a new browser window.

This does not work:

    sudo -u normaluser firefox example.com
So I do:

    sudo -u normaluser chromium example.com
I thought that was relevant to the question "Why bother with Chrome".

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by ssdspoimdsjvv »

ggjkvcxddd wrote: post #165
masfoobar wrote: post #148

I have been a happy Firefox user for 15 years... maybe more. I have seen people use and complain Internet Explorer in my younger days, from version 6 to 7, etc. Even though I mention Firefox to them, they stay with IE. What amazes me is how quick they transitioned to Google Chrome when it released. This was around 2009. It amazes me how quick people jump to something especially when it has a big company behind advert…

>I just don't understand why people would use Chrome. Really? That seems hard to believe. I stuck with FF until around 2016 or so before being compelled to switch. The performance was just very clearly worse than Chrome's at the time. Not sure what the state of things is now. This is HN, so another huge reason to use Chrome is for the devtools, which I've always had a very good experience with and know pretty well. I…

Firefox had a big upgrade around that time that massively improved performance (because indeed, it was clearly slower than Chrome.)

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by squarefoot »

vasvae3 wrote: post #230
robobro wrote: post #215

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Weird, I don't see adds on my Firefox new tab screen. Maybe you accidentally checked ``Sponsored shortcuts" ? :-)

"Sponsored shortcuts" comes enabled by default, at least on Windows builds made by Mozilla. If you are using Linux I suppose your distro turns it off by default? btw in my case it adds two ads: Nike and Amazon. They come with tracking parameters that are unique to me (if I create a new browser profile, they change)

Disabling them is one click away, however.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by jraph »

ryan-c wrote: post #229
robertlagrant wrote: post #193

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I don't really understand this - would you not buy a car if it has too small a market share? Why not just use it? What reality is there to face?

Roads don't get replaced with ones which are incompatible with unpopular cars on a regular basis.

But current roads are compatible with this particular unpopular car for the most part.

The one odd incompatible road here and there is also mostly there. These roads or the unpopular car we are speaking about only needs a few superficial tweaks. Nothing fundamental.

I know, I'm still rocking this car. It has the best windshield wipers of the market, for the very rainy roads.

It is also free so it's not like I'm making a big investment by picking it and risking it becomes irrelevant soon. Which I don't see coming, to be clear.

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