I would, if Mozilla focused on features users want :)
So stick with chrome where the chrome team focuses on features that make the Web worse, like manifest v3 and cohorts.
How did you infer from their comment that they used Chrome?
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#212FWIW I got annoyed with chrome's distracting home screen, and pondered how long it would take for a 10+ year chrome user to switch to firefox. The answer (on macOS) was 5 minutes. I was shocked how easy it was (and, frankly, how similar it was). When you first open firefox, it gives options to import all your chrome settings (including saved passwords etc). Super cool.
You are annoyed with chrome's distracting home screen that shows your most visited sites but you are not annoyed with firefox's distracting home screen that shows your most visited sites plus some ads?
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#213What’s the website support of Firefox like? I tried switching to Safari last year and a small minority of websites didn’t work as expected. Even though it was small, it was a big enough problem that I switched back to Chrome.
Everything works. In some cases you have to disable the strictest security level, a bit like disabling your ad blocker. Even that is very rare. I do the remember encountering actual problems that would affect my experience.
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#214Firefox looks ugly, I really can't accept it. The only way of it looking less ugly is to do some unofficial tweaks which break from version to version. I was a Firefox user for years until they've changed the UI, and now I can't go back because of how it LOOKS. Also, the Mozilla ideology. Why can't the browser be just a piece of software and that's it? I just use Vivaldi. Edit: I can sense that Firefox zealotry is st…
Uh where do you see the browser? You mean maybe the settings pages? Otherwise I only see a standard window frame around a webpage, and can't even imagine it being different.
The look of website tabs. They were perfectly fine a few years ago, but they had to change something to show that something changes.
Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs
#215FWIW I got annoyed with chrome's distracting home screen, and pondered how long it would take for a 10+ year chrome user to switch to firefox. The answer (on macOS) was 5 minutes. I was shocked how easy it was (and, frankly, how similar it was). When you first open firefox, it gives options to import all your chrome settings (including saved passwords etc). Super cool.
You are annoyed with chrome's distracting home screen that shows your most visited sites but you are not annoyed with firefox's distracting home screen that shows your most visited sites plus some ads?
Weird, I don't see adds on my Firefox new tab screen. Maybe you accidentally checked ``Sponsored shortcuts" ? :-)
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#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What amazes me is how quick they transitioned to Google Chrome when it released. This was around 2009. The power of endless money for advertising. Some users think it doesn't have that much impact, but being nudged on every other web page to make the switch is much more powerful than that nephew who talks to you about it once.
My guess is that i wasn't marketing. It was because FF was dog-slow back then and Chrome was (still is) blazingly fast
Most non-technical users don't give a crap about how fast or slow their browser was: if they did, they would've switched from IE to Firefox the first go 'round. To downplay the fact that google advertised Chrome on google.com is to rewrite history, in my opinion.
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I'm not sure what you mean. What I try to achieve is start a new firefox window (for the normal user) from a root terminal. So part of the command has to be "sudo -u normaluser" or "su -l normaluser" or something.
You have to pass those environment variables to Firefox through sudo. sudo has a --preserve-env=list option but you must know the value for DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS. That's usually unix:path=/run/user/1000/bus where 1000 is the id of the user Firefox is running for. Your root console could have no DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS or have a different value for it. To be 100% sure of the value, as you are root you could look i…
Assuming it is "unix:path=/run/user/1000/bus", what would be the command to start Firefox as the normaluser with that setting?
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#218Don't switch to FF if you're a heavy user. I am on Firefox as my main browser for web and mobile since 4 years. I am just in the process of switching back to Chrome, as Firefox got continuously worse over time. Can't handle lots of tabs, crashes/freezes randomly, weird UI bugs... It's just very disappointing :/.
My anecdote can beat up your anecdote!
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#219Unfortunately, Firefox isn't quite keeping up. One issue is that for me at least, Firefox crashes too often, and when it does, the entire browser goes away, not just the tab. That's annoying. Another issue is that something seems to be lacking performance-wise. I messed around a bit with Invoke AI, and the canvas is painfully slow even on modern, high end hardware. I thought it was just the code sucked. Nope, it's si…
I use Firefox, Edge and Vivaldi on a 8 year old mac book pro. I do not notice any difference in performance with any of them.
Same installation, just different browsers:
https://daleglass.eu-central-1.linodeobjects.com/videos/fire...
https://daleglass.eu-central-1.linodeobjects.com/videos/chro...
Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs
#220Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What amazes me is how quick they transitioned to Google Chrome when it released. This was around 2009. The power of endless money for advertising. Some users think it doesn't have that much impact, but being nudged on every other web page to make the switch is much more powerful than that nephew who talks to you about it once.
My guess is that i wasn't marketing. It was because FF was dog-slow back then and Chrome was (still is) blazingly fast
Maybe - but we all forget how google was the one that "pushed" javascript heavily, even if indirectly. At least that's how I remember it so many years later.
So, convenient that they pushed something that half the web and browsers didn't pay much attention to, but they did because they wanted interactive apps and things inside a browser. And hey, this was at the time fancy UIs and frameworks were popping up. Were they prescient or just riding the wave? Or were they perhaps doing that plus also pushing the wave in the direction that best suited what they were good at and also made them lots of money in advertising.
So when we say marketing, we have to include all that advertising now just for a browser, but also for everything that google was pushing in synergy with it.