I won't use Firefox due to the way Mozilla is wasting its money and mismanaging its projects.
Sure it's pretty bad, but the chrome team isn't any better mandating manifest v3, experimenting with cohorts, etc.
Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs
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Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs
#122Unfortunately, Firefox isn't quite keeping up. One issue is that for me at least, Firefox crashes too often, and when it does, the entire browser goes away, not just the tab. That's annoying. Another issue is that something seems to be lacking performance-wise. I messed around a bit with Invoke AI, and the canvas is painfully slow even on modern, high end hardware. I thought it was just the code sucked. Nope, it's si…
I use Firefox daily as my default, have roughly about 250 tabs open at this stage. I've not closed my browser in the last 6 or 7 months.. It's not crashed yet. Is it possible that it's some specific website your visiting?
Had to install an auto-reload extension to reload the Slack page every 15min, as it would live-leak some js or DOM stuff causing Firefox to run out of memory eventually (ie 10s of GB).
Haven't checked recently if it's been fixed, I just leave it on.
Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs
#123I tried moving to Firefox a year ago but found that the lack of Tab Groups really killed me. There are several extensions that try to emulate this behaviour, but I didn't find that they worked particularly well. And then there are the security concerns. I guess when Chrome break uBlock Origin next year I'll give Edge a go, or one of the various chromium builds
Just in case you're open to something new: Tree Style Tabs is my goto extension to managing tabs on firefox
You manage your tabs vertically in a sidebar, organized as a tree. Every new tab is opened as a leaf from the tab that you came from, grouping your tabs by branches following your navigation on the web. This make managing groups of tabs by topics really natural.
Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs
#124Edge is easy to switch to and could be a great way to break the Chrome dominance. Safari also started catching up over the last 2 years
I would not recommend Safari as I have completely stopped supporting it many years ago due to Apples hostile approach towards developers and the fact it's broken beyond internet explorer levels and has been in this sorry state for at least a decade. I don't know if people still using it have some special use cases or just don't know you can install another browser.
Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs
#125Don't switch to FF if you're a heavy user. I am on Firefox as my main browser for web and mobile since 4 years. I am just in the process of switching back to Chrome, as Firefox got continuously worse over time. Can't handle lots of tabs, crashes/freezes randomly, weird UI bugs... It's just very disappointing :/.
> Don't switch to FF if you're a heavy user I currently have over 250 tabs open, all actually open actively running things in the background, and I haven't closed my two Firefox windows in the last 6-7 months. I constantly run fairly heavy CPU-usage web apps and FF's not crashed in the last 6 months at least.. Let's not generalise your experience to the rest.. Like "It runs on my machine" isn't a valid statement usua…
(Firefox user here and I'm not planning on switching)
Your argument also works against yourself.
Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs
#126Unfortunately, Firefox isn't quite keeping up. One issue is that for me at least, Firefox crashes too often, and when it does, the entire browser goes away, not just the tab. That's annoying. Another issue is that something seems to be lacking performance-wise. I messed around a bit with Invoke AI, and the canvas is painfully slow even on modern, high end hardware. I thought it was just the code sucked. Nope, it's si…
As opposed to the other comentors here, my Firefox has crashed, but only because I've ran out of ram due to having loads of electron based vscode windows open eating up all my ram. Although Firefox wasn't the only app that crashed and this wasn't a Firefox specific issue.
Definitely not RAM. I've gone for way overkill and put 128 GB into my desktop because launching 32 GB VMs is a thing I do.
The vast majority of time that leaves an insane safety margin.
Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs
#127My problem with Firefox is that a new Firefox windows can only be launched from the same environment (or only from a child process?) from which the first window has been started. Even the same user who started FF cannot launch a new window from a new shell. That constantly interferes with my workflow. Example: Say firefox has been started from the Destop already and now I want to start a new Firefox window from a roo…
this works for me env -i DISPLAY=$DISPLAY DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=$DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS firefox this doesn't, it gives me the "Firefox is already running, but is not responding." message env -i DISPLAY=$DISPLAY firefox
I'm not sure what you mean. What I try to achieve is start a new firefox window (for the normal user) from a root terminal. So part of the command has to be "sudo -u normaluser" or "su -l normaluser" or something.
Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs
#128Mozilla get a lot of funding directly from Google for making Google the default search site [0]. Seems to me that this may be a problem going forward if Mozilla continue to allow ad blockers in Firefox. [0] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2023-05-05/why-go...
Yes, attacking the source of revenue that sustains a project is always a sensitive prospect. But then again, what's the alternative for Mozilla? In case of YouTube Premium we've clearly seen that even HN software engineers, demanding six figure pay, will refuse to pay other software companies a few bucks for their engineering work. Where does Mozilla find funding to sustain itself elsewhere?
It's not just about being able to pay.
Free YouTube: You can watch with ads and you are tracked.
YouTube Premium: You can watch without ads but you're still tracked.
YouTube with an Ad Blocker: You can watch without ads and without being tracked.
Google's largest chunk of revenue comes from ads. Being tracked simply means you'll be shown targeted ads in other areas apart from YouTube if you pay them. They shouldn't charge you and still sell your data.
Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs
#129Mozilla get a lot of funding directly from Google for making Google the default search site [0]. Seems to me that this may be a problem going forward if Mozilla continue to allow ad blockers in Firefox. [0] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2023-05-05/why-go...
Firefox is essentially a dead fish in the sea. Depending on source, Firefox sits at 3-8 % market share. They are much more likely to lose funding because of irrelevancy than some users using AdBlock.
3-8% of the Internet users is 400 million users. I wouldn't call that "dead in the sea". Even 1% of the Internet users is a very significant amount of users. Why obsess with market share? At some point all browsers raised from 0% market share. Choose whatever fits your needs.
Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs
#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, attacking the source of revenue that sustains a project is always a sensitive prospect. But then again, what's the alternative for Mozilla? In case of YouTube Premium we've clearly seen that even HN software engineers, demanding six figure pay, will refuse to pay other software companies a few bucks for their engineering work. Where does Mozilla find funding to sustain itself elsewhere?
What? We're not refusing to "pay other software companies a few bucks for their engineering work", we refuse to give in to the extortion attempts of a greedy multi-billion dollar company. I have and will keep financially supporting software I find useful. However, I do agree that it's questionable whether you can easily replace Google as a source of funding.
It's hardly extortion, watching Youtube isn't a human right