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Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by jackjeff »

bilekas wrote: post #20

I love Firefox, but for some reason I can't pull away from Brave at the moment for my daily driver. Time will tell how long they can hold out against the changes that will eventually filter into chromium. I see the future of adblocking etc being put back to the network side, things like piHole should get a 'new' lease of life.

> things like piHole should get a 'new' lease of life.

You could never implement what ublock origin does with simple DNS blocking. The way ublock origin works is by going after cross domain requests.

But I imagine an HTTP proxy of some kind could do it. You’d get slightly higher latency (because you’d have to parse the HTML doc twice)

But installing a chrome extension is piece of cake.

Setting up a “pi hole” or proxy will never be as easy. So if even a few percent of users don’t bother, then Google makes more money selling ads.

$$ That’s all that matters really. We’re taking about a company that stopped innovating and releasing new products eons ago. They’re just milking what they have until it dies.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by [deleted] »

rrreese wrote: post #64

I tried moving to Firefox a year ago but found that the lack of Tab Groups really killed me. There are several extensions that try to emulate this behaviour, but I didn't find that they worked particularly well. And then there are the security concerns. I guess when Chrome break uBlock Origin next year I'll give Edge a go, or one of the various chromium builds

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Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by theferalrobot »

jraph wrote: post #66
seanthemon wrote: post #57

Highly recommend brave (with all the crypto nonsense shut off), it's a pretty fast browser, nice features and works with chrome extensions. I've used it successfully for the past 3 or something years

But it's doing Google's game by being based on Blink.

Blink is the de facto web standard like it or not just like linux is for web hosting and both are open source and contributed to by many companies. Firefox is now in 5th place for browser market share and Mozilla is a dumpster fire of a company, imo it is only a matter of time before Firefox switches or completely folds.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by mariusor »

JonathanBeuys wrote: post #33

My problem with Firefox is that a new Firefox windows can only be launched from the same environment (or only from a child process?) from which the first window has been started. Even the same user who started FF cannot launch a new window from a new shell. That constantly interferes with my workflow. Example: Say firefox has been started from the Destop already and now I want to start a new Firefox window from a roo…

I am probably not understand your use-case correctly but there's a `--new-window` flag on the firefox binary. You can use that to open new windows under the same profile.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by ranguna »

dale_glass wrote: post #29

Unfortunately, Firefox isn't quite keeping up. One issue is that for me at least, Firefox crashes too often, and when it does, the entire browser goes away, not just the tab. That's annoying. Another issue is that something seems to be lacking performance-wise. I messed around a bit with Invoke AI, and the canvas is painfully slow even on modern, high end hardware. I thought it was just the code sucked. Nope, it's si…

As opposed to the other comentors here, my Firefox has crashed, but only because I've ran out of ram due to having loads of electron based vscode windows open eating up all my ram. Although Firefox wasn't the only app that crashed and this wasn't a Firefox specific issue.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by 7373737373 »

bilekas wrote: post #20

I love Firefox, but for some reason I can't pull away from Brave at the moment for my daily driver. Time will tell how long they can hold out against the changes that will eventually filter into chromium. I see the future of adblocking etc being put back to the network side, things like piHole should get a 'new' lease of life.

Pi-hole will never be an option for the 99.99%

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by werid »

jpdus wrote: post #10

Don't switch to FF if you're a heavy user. I am on Firefox as my main browser for web and mobile since 4 years. I am just in the process of switching back to Chrome, as Firefox got continuously worse over time. Can't handle lots of tabs, crashes/freezes randomly, weird UI bugs... It's just very disappointing :/.

i have close to 2000 tabs and have stellar performance and no crashes.

chrome on the other hand, tabs will randomly crash if left open for more than a day or two.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by bad_user »

I keep seeing Edge mentioned as a worthy alternative, and I just don't get it.

First, all Chromium-based browsers will eventually block uBlock Origin for the sole reason that they can't maintain Manifest v2 on their own, and they all rely on Chrome's Web Store anyway. This won't happen immediately because Manifest v2 will probably stick around for longer because of enterprise users, but the writing is on the wall.

Then there's the fact that Edge is just Microsoft's spyware, being worse in my book than Google's Chrome. And people forget that Microsoft is also an advertising company. Even if that's not their main revenue source, they also hate your ad-blockers.

In the EU, when you open Edge for the first time, they ask you to agree to sharing your personal data with the entire advertising industry, via an IAB dialog. And there's no way to workaround it, you have to answer it (with the rejection being an agreement to “legitimate interest” claims, which are BS). Google's Chrome does not do this, and searching on google.com only asks for sharing of data with Google itself.

Edge also exposes an advertising ID, meant for Bing's Ads, much like what Chrome does for Google. And in true Microsoft spirit, it also has telemetry, which you can't turn off.

Edge doesn't end-to-end encrypt your synchronized data. Compared with Chrome, which at least supports an “encryption passphrase” that does e2e encryption. Don't get me wrong, Chrome is also cursed because with a passphrase, they don't synchronize all your history. And also, they keep turning on that option for sharing your browsing history with Google, for the purpose of improving search. But in terms of what browser is more adversarial towards users, Edge is worse, IMO.

And Edge is hard-coded to use Bing. It's harder to use Edge without Bing or Microsoft's online services, than it is to use Chrome without Google. Personally, I don't want my browser to tie me to certain online services.

Seriously, Edge is just Microsoft's spyware and a piece of crap. Other Chromium alternatives, like Vivaldi or Brave, are better, firstly because they aren't so adversarial. Or if you're on macOS, give Arc a try.

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