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Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by jraph »

HenryBemis wrote: post #34
roydivision wrote: post #25

Mozilla get a lot of funding directly from Google for making Google the default search site [0]. Seems to me that this may be a problem going forward if Mozilla continue to allow ad blockers in Firefox. [0] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2023-05-05/why-go...

The curse of the default tells us that this will never be a problem. Do you honestly believe that 99% of the Android Firefox users spend time to change the settings on the browser? (change to DDG, block all 3rd party cookies, etc.) I did a quick search on DDG but no meaningful results came up with search engine for firefox on android. Gut feeling tells me 'minimal'. People do like their google remembering stuff. Conv…

To be an Android Firefox user, you already went to the trouble of installing an alternative browser on Android. The motivations to switch browsers might as well be the same as those which will push you to switch search engines.

I would totally expect a reasonable number of Android Firefox users, of all apps, to change at least the search engine.

(I'm with you on the general case)

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by MrStonedOne »

HenryBemis wrote: post #34
roydivision wrote: post #25

Mozilla get a lot of funding directly from Google for making Google the default search site [0]. Seems to me that this may be a problem going forward if Mozilla continue to allow ad blockers in Firefox. [0] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2023-05-05/why-go...

The curse of the default tells us that this will never be a problem. Do you honestly believe that 99% of the Android Firefox users spend time to change the settings on the browser? (change to DDG, block all 3rd party cookies, etc.) I did a quick search on DDG but no meaningful results came up with search engine for firefox on android. Gut feeling tells me 'minimal'. People do like their google remembering stuff. Conv…

I think you might be missing their concern.

The concern is that google basically funds firefox, and can choose to revoke that funding at the most inconvenient time for mozilla, risking bankruptcy. Companies ebb and flow on cash flow, and a unexpected drop at the exact wrong moment can cripple even the most well funded ones.

Or just threaten to do so to exert pressure.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by rfoo »

INTPenis wrote: post #8
ekianjo wrote: post #3

Isnt Firefox trying to copy EXACTLY what Chrome is doing with extensions?

Can you elaborate? Firefox had extensions before Chrome existed. Firefox has always been the most versatile and secure way to browse the web. The only reason Chrome is even in the discussion is because Google abused its monopoly to push it on people. And yes a lot of people will say it's faster, all that speed lead you straight into the claws of Google doing whatever they want with you.

> Firefox has always been the most versatile and secure way to browse the web.

Currently, a Chrome full-chain is notably harder than a Firefox full-chain, with the former being at "state actor ITW" level, and the latter being at "your friends started a never-heard of consultancy and they decided to do the classical trick - pwning Firefox at Pwn2Own" level.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by kyriakos »

deusex_ wrote: post #19

Edge is easy to switch to and could be a great way to break the Chrome dominance. Safari also started catching up over the last 2 years

Is there any evidence that edge won't switch to manifest v3? As far as I understand Edge merges in Chrome updates.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by ekianjo »

INTPenis wrote: post #8
ekianjo wrote: post #3

Isnt Firefox trying to copy EXACTLY what Chrome is doing with extensions?

Can you elaborate? Firefox had extensions before Chrome existed. Firefox has always been the most versatile and secure way to browse the web. The only reason Chrome is even in the discussion is because Google abused its monopoly to push it on people. And yes a lot of people will say it's faster, all that speed lead you straight into the claws of Google doing whatever they want with you.

Firefox has dropped its own extensions to follow Chromes extension model for a long time now

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by izacus »

roydivision wrote: post #25

Mozilla get a lot of funding directly from Google for making Google the default search site [0]. Seems to me that this may be a problem going forward if Mozilla continue to allow ad blockers in Firefox. [0] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2023-05-05/why-go...

Yes, attacking the source of revenue that sustains a project is always a sensitive prospect.

But then again, what's the alternative for Mozilla? In case of YouTube Premium we've clearly seen that even HN software engineers, demanding six figure pay, will refuse to pay other software companies a few bucks for their engineering work.

Where does Mozilla find funding to sustain itself elsewhere?

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by Helmut10001 »

JonathanBeuys wrote: post #33

My problem with Firefox is that a new Firefox windows can only be launched from the same environment (or only from a child process?) from which the first window has been started. Even the same user who started FF cannot launch a new window from a new shell. That constantly interferes with my workflow. Example: Say firefox has been started from the Destop already and now I want to start a new Firefox window from a roo…

Use keypirinha [1]. You can type "fir.." hit enter, a firefox window opens. Do it again, and a new firefox window opens.

[1]: https://keypirinha.com/

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by erklik »

dale_glass wrote: post #29

Unfortunately, Firefox isn't quite keeping up. One issue is that for me at least, Firefox crashes too often, and when it does, the entire browser goes away, not just the tab. That's annoying. Another issue is that something seems to be lacking performance-wise. I messed around a bit with Invoke AI, and the canvas is painfully slow even on modern, high end hardware. I thought it was just the code sucked. Nope, it's si…

I use Firefox daily as my default, have roughly about 250 tabs open at this stage. I've not closed my browser in the last 6 or 7 months.. It's not crashed yet.

Is it possible that it's some specific website your visiting?

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