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Phrack Issue #68

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Re: Phrack Issue #68

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I just found my hard copy of issue 57 that they printed out for hal2001 while sorting out old books. :) that was a great con.

Here's a pic of the cover http://sitethree.com/phrack.jpg sorry for the twitter image link but easiest way with my iPad. (Updated link)

easiest, but useless, since your account is protected.

Re: Phrack Issue #68

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Those who forget history are not likely to learn from it... In all seriousness, in this day and age of social media, FB, etc. the old school tech mags just aren't well known. I'm really not surprised that even younger security interested people don't know them. 2600, Phrack, and the like just don't end up on people's radars... I'm not sure why that is.

I think the landscape has changed a lot since then. Back then computer security had more of an underground feel it, where free and open discussion about it was viewed as being discouraged by 'the authorities'. The 'underground' pretty much existed for this reason. Now the information out there is so widely available. Given enough time and effort, you can become pretty well-versed based on what's available. Still, eve…

> Phreaking also has become less relevant with ...

Fortress phones did not help much either. Of course now even those pay phones are getting removed from a lot of locations.

Re: Phrack Issue #68

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post #21

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Here's a pic of the cover http://sitethree.com/phrack.jpg sorry for the twitter image link but easiest way with my iPad. (Updated link)

easiest, but useless, since your account is protected.

Ah damn I'll switch to laptop and fix this sorry.

Re: Phrack Issue #68

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I'm surprised how the younger generation does not seems to know all these things. It's not like if they weren't well-known. Sometimes I hear "what's 2600?" " why is it called 2600?" from "security professionals". Woot.

Those who forget history are not likely to learn from it... In all seriousness, in this day and age of social media, FB, etc. the old school tech mags just aren't well known. I'm really not surprised that even younger security interested people don't know them. 2600, Phrack, and the like just don't end up on people's radars... I'm not sure why that is.

Not that the exception proves the rule, but I'm 26 and have been reading 2600 since about the 8th grade. Passed down from an uncle.

Re: Phrack Issue #68

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post #9

For those, like myself, unsure about the significance of this post, this digital magazine has an infrequent and lengthy release cycle. The last issue is from 2010.

I'm surprised how the younger generation does not seems to know all these things. It's not like if they weren't well-known. Sometimes I hear "what's 2600?" " why is it called 2600?" from "security professionals". Woot.

Thankfully, my security professor clued us in. I graduated undergrad last year, and I wrote my first exploit (for that class) based on the phrack article on format string exploits.

Re: Phrack Issue #68

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post #14
post #9

For those, like myself, unsure about the significance of this post, this digital magazine has an infrequent and lengthy release cycle. The last issue is from 2010.

I'm surprised how the younger generation does not seems to know all these things. It's not like if they weren't well-known. Sometimes I hear "what's 2600?" " why is it called 2600?" from "security professionals". Woot.

There are a LOT of "security professionals" who know nothing about security

Re: Phrack Issue #68

#30
The 'Lines In The Sand' piece reads like someone who is enamored with being a 'bad boy' and that breaking the law is just really cool and if you want to be a cool black hat hacker you should basically try to cause as much mayhem as possible, fuck anyone else (but also be in complete solidarity with the black hat brethren who should totally go to jail for you without question). Apparently you can't even hack for a living because that would be selling out. I guess it's just not cool to get paid for doing the thing you'd do for free anyway.

The author is proud, vain, simple-minded, selfish, jaded, misguided, and totally enamored with his/her ideal 'scene' where they get to be the coolest person in the room because they can be an outlaw. You can't just reject all forms of society and pretend to live in your own little world where everything revolves around you and what you want.

We have to accept certain things we don't like because it's the contract we make with our fellow human beings to live together. Yes, i'll pay my taxes. Yes, I will stop at red lights. And no, you cannot steal from me or destroy my property just because you think it's lulzy or because you justify it as part of some cause you have. Something is wrong with this person that they have absolutely no remorse for any collateral damage suffered by his/her actions toward his/her noble cause.

Also, seriously, having a beef with an irc server is like having a beef with a specific bar or restaurant. Just don't go in there if you don't like it.

The 'Happy Hacking' article should just be renamed 'Why Selling Out Isn't As Fun And Cool As Black Hat Hacking'. I'm pretty disappointed in Phrack for publishing crap like these articles.

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