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Re: City of Boulder Open Data

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Post by jlarocco »

justinator wrote: post #20
Someguy1098 wrote: post #4

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Been there. It's very expensive and crowded but it's really nice being like 15 minutes from some of the nicest hiking trails in the country.

>and crowded Oh yes, with the 5 story limit of the height of the buildings - and a year over year growth of 1%. Super crowded.

Hence super expensive.

I don't know why our city council and planning boards waste so much time on "affordable housing" when it's clearly not fixable.

The economics don't make sense to have a highly desirable place to live with a highly constrained housing supply and also make it affordable. The affordable housing plans here basically boil down to a lottery.

Re: City of Boulder Open Data

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Post by NoToP »

chaps wrote: post #35

Just be VERY careful when using any of these open data sets. Datasets will undoubtedly be filtered by some unwritten criteria. It's best to use these datasets as a sanity check for some things, with follow-up FOIA requests for the serious work. And even that will be filled with similar filtering. Source: spent the last ten years working with open data and FOIA in Chicago. Also, here's a tweet-fitting one liner I wrot…

This strikes me as a Wikipedia Article type caveat. Sure the warning applies to certain categories of article/data, namely the ones where people are jockeying to have the authority of an encyclopaedia / data to reinforce their political stance, but on any sort of non political topic neutrality is a non issue. I fully anticipate that say, police and crime data by demographic shouldn't be trusted. Other data, like say pounds of recycled garbage collected per census tract, is probably fine.

Re: City of Boulder Open Data

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Post by jlarocco »

CPLX wrote: post #15
mp05 wrote: post #13

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Boulder is the worst best small town in America. You know what I mean.

Boulder is more accurately described as a neighborhood or region of Denver. If that’s not obvious today it certainly will be when the staggering construction in Arvada, Broomfield, and so on, has filled in all of the areas that could plausibly be used to argue otherwise.

Part of the reason it's so expensive here, though, is the swath of city and county owned open space around the outskirts of town. Maybe some day it'll get developed, but I think it'll be a long time before that can happen.

Re: City of Boulder Open Data

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Post by jlarocco »

Mistletoe wrote: post #30
Eumenes wrote: post #14

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Too commercial, too many rich brats, expensive, nice access to nature but too crowded. The western side of the Rockies are superior imo.

What cities do you suggest west of the Rockies?

San Francisco and Los Angeles

Re: City of Boulder Open Data

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Post by chaps »

NoToP wrote: post #42
chaps wrote: post #35

Just be VERY careful when using any of these open data sets. Datasets will undoubtedly be filtered by some unwritten criteria. It's best to use these datasets as a sanity check for some things, with follow-up FOIA requests for the serious work. And even that will be filled with similar filtering. Source: spent the last ten years working with open data and FOIA in Chicago. Also, here's a tweet-fitting one liner I wrot…

This strikes me as a Wikipedia Article type caveat. Sure the warning applies to certain categories of article/data, namely the ones where people are jockeying to have the authority of an encyclopaedia / data to reinforce their political stance, but on any sort of non political topic neutrality is a non issue. I fully anticipate that say, police and crime data by demographic shouldn't be trusted. Other data, like say…

I mean, sure? I'm very much saying this for police datasets, where for example, a "crime" database might not include homicide information.

And no, I don't think it's fair to say that the amount of pounds of recycled garbage collected per census tract would be remotely accurate. Too many private companies with private incentives. Just a taste, for example: https://www.wbez.org/stories/bga-investigation-reveals-major...

Re: City of Boulder Open Data

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Post by justinator »

CPLX wrote: post #32
justinator wrote: post #29

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Denver is in a different county altogether. There's a county in between Boulder and Denver counties, saying nothing of them being the same city.

Brooklyn and Manhattan are in different counties too. Ask yourself questions like what airport do you fly to and where would you take your kids to the children’s museum if you lived there and you’ll realize what city Boulder is a part of.

>Brooklyn and Manhattan are in different counties too.

You're going to use the most densely populated city in the US for your example?

>Ask yourself questions like what airport do you fly to

Colorado has one international airport - are you saying ALL of Colorado is Denver? Are you saying Newark NJ is in the same city as Brooklyn? I don't know where you're heading, but it's just logical gymnastics.

Re: City of Boulder Open Data

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Post by justinator »

jlarocco wrote: post #41
justinator wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>and crowded Oh yes, with the 5 story limit of the height of the buildings - and a year over year growth of 1%. Super crowded.

Hence super expensive. I don't know why our city council and planning boards waste so much time on "affordable housing" when it's clearly not fixable. The economics don't make sense to have a highly desirable place to live with a highly constrained housing supply and also make it affordable. The affordable housing plans here basically boil down to a lottery.

>The affordable housing plans here basically boil down to a lottery.

They don't "basically", Section 8 housing is literally a lottery.

https://boulderhousing.org/

Re: City of Boulder Open Data

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Post by alistairSH »

justinator wrote: post #29
patrick451 wrote: post #22

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What's your point? Denver is a massive sprawling metro.

Denver is in a different county altogether. There's a county in between Boulder and Denver counties, saying nothing of them being the same city.

So…? Arlington and Fairfax are different counties than DC. Heck, they’re in a different state and across a river too. But nobody would argue they aren’t suburbs of DC.

25 miles is well within commuting distance for many major metro areas.

Boulder may arguably be a suburb or not. But an arbitrary 25 mile limit isn’t what defines suburb or not.

Re: City of Boulder Open Data

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Post by justinator »

Someguy1098 wrote: post #38
justinator wrote: post #20

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>and crowded Oh yes, with the 5 story limit of the height of the buildings - and a year over year growth of 1%. Super crowded.

Wouldn't 5 story limit's on buildings just make it feel more crowded by constraining the growth?

I don't follow. "It feels crowded because not everyone can live there?".

Re: City of Boulder Open Data

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Post by Someguy1098 »

justinator wrote: post #49
Someguy1098 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't 5 story limit's on buildings just make it feel more crowded by constraining the growth?

I don't follow. "It feels crowded because not everyone can live there?".

It feels crowded because instead of being able to increase density vertically the density has to be increased horizontally.
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