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Charging past 80% is a waste of time. The fuller the battery the slower it charges. It’s much faster to stop twice to charge half of the battery than to stop once to charge 100%.
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At least in the seattle area it doesn’t feel like the supercharger density is keeping up with sales of cars. AFAIK there have only been super chargers built around the periphery of the region in the last few years and many existing chargers are older lower power chargers. The east side (Bellevue, Redmond, etc), which has a HUGE EV following, with Teslas everywhere, has precisely zero super chargers. We happen to live…
> The east side (Bellevue, Redmond, etc), which has a HUGE EV following, with Teslas everywhere, has precisely zero super chargers. What are you talking about? I literally used one yesterday in Bellevue downtown, iirc it was built at some point during the beginning of Covid. Just checked the supercharger map to confirm, and there are also superchargers in Issaquah and Bothell available.
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https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/forums/northwest-supercharge...
Looks like quite a few new locations breaking ground including in Kirkland and Bellevue.
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Tesla has a monopoly on working electric car charging infrastructure. There are other chargers out there but all the others work poorly
“Monopoly” is a bit strong. They’re the market leader because they’ve excelled at it. What anti-competitive tactics have they used?
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“Monopoly” is a bit strong. They’re the market leader because they’ve excelled at it. What anti-competitive tactics have they used?
They are a natural monopoly; nothing wrong with dominating and providing the best value, but we note when monopolies occur because bureaucracies tend to naturally exploit them.
Investopedia defines a natural monopoly like this:
“A natural monopoly is a type of monopoly in an industry or sector with high barriers to entry and start-up costs that prevent any rivals from competing.”
But there are many rivals to Tesla in this space. ChargePoint, ElectrifyAmerica, and even a start-up called Volta that does free ad-supported EV charging. Shell bought them earlier this year. KBB lists a ton more, including regional ones:
Wait for the lawsuit by people with free supercharging
Fantastic news. This will help reduce the few people who cluelessly occupy plugs for longer than needed at hardly any benefit to themselves and at some cost (time cost) to others. And make people who foolishly bought low range cars “to save money” help pay for any impact their choice has on others.
That has absolutely nothing to do with this subject.
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Why is it a non-issue for you? A comment in the article indicates otherwise: >In the summer of 2022, I took an 8,000-mile road trip across the United States. Most of the time an 80% charge limit would be fine, but there were a few places where we needed to charge to 100% when going off the Interstate. Fortunately those were mostly not in high-density areas, but it would be very frustrating to hit these charges in suc…
>would be very frustrating It doesn’t sound like this a problem they actually encountered.
Assuming the density of superchargers and other comparable infrastructure can/does increase this feels basically fair. I assume this is a nose under the door for all other forms of junk fees and in and of itself will be abused long-term, but as is there does have to be some long term management of the long tail of charging.
At least in the seattle area it doesn’t feel like the supercharger density is keeping up with sales of cars. AFAIK there have only been super chargers built around the periphery of the region in the last few years and many existing chargers are older lower power chargers. The east side (Bellevue, Redmond, etc), which has a HUGE EV following, with Teslas everywhere, has precisely zero super chargers. We happen to live…
I thought most Tesla owners were rich enough to have charging at home?
This makes complete sense to me. Where I live, an overwhelming majority of charging stations are occupied by cars that are plugged in, but no longer charging. Officially, they can stay there indefinitely. The biggest charger network in the area worked on an unlimited plan model for a long time, so it makes sense that they wouldn’t have a problem with fully charged cars hogging the network because it means fewer cars…
Isn't that the point? Aren't they supposed to be parking spots reserved for electric cars so they can charge while you're off doing other stuff?
Seems silly that the solution is to make it time-limited rather than just adding more plugs. The people who are gonna be a while will be fine with a standard 120v line.
The fact that the charges still can't automatically connect and disconnect like it was demod with this snake thing so many years ago and that the Vegas loop still has drivers leaves me with very little believe that Tesla will ever have an actual working and safe FSD.