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Korean Smartphones Have Mandatory Shutter Sounds, 8 in 10 Want It Muted

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Re: Korean Smartphones Have Mandatory Shutter Sounds, 8 in 10 Want It Muted

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Post by threeseed »

gnicholas wrote: post #28
EForEndeavour wrote: post #6

> South Korea has a problem with unwanted, clandestine photography relating to upskirting and when mobile phones were introduced, authorities moved to stop perverts from taking photos of people without permission. 1. My mind is blown that this oddly specific behaviour was apparently so common that the government mandated all cellphone cameras must play shutter sounds that cannot be muted. What the hell? 2. Do third-p…

Also: what if someone starts a screen recording and then opens the camera app?

I think the reason is that on iOS if you are capturing the video it forces the screen on.

Where as with the camera you can turn it off. Hence the need for shutter sound.

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Post by TheRoque »

gnicholas wrote: post #33
TheRoque wrote: post #26

What's funny is that's it's not about "Korean smartphones", it's about "smartphones on Korea". A friend of mine bought an iphone in France, and when she went to visit Korea, it started doing the shutter sound. It's just purely based on the localization! Same applies if a Korean moves abroad, I assume.

It sounds like people have differing experiences with foreign phones being used in Korea. [1] Perhaps it is based on what SIM card you have installed, as one redditor suggested? 1: https://www.reddit.com/r/korea/comments/14el5lr/phone_shutte...

I doubt it's the only thing. Me and my friend moved to Korea, had the same Korean sim card. Only thing that changed is that I have an Android (Xiaomi), and she has an iPhone. Mine didn't start to do any sound.

Re: Korean Smartphones Have Mandatory Shutter Sounds, 8 in 10 Want It Muted

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Post by fbdab103 »

cubefox wrote: post #34
gruez wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the very least it can be removed by physically disabling the speakers. So any software measure (eg. locked bootloaders) isn't really worth enforcing too hard.

"Physically disabling" how? Opening the phone and disconnecting the speakers? In my phone the earpiece acts as a second speaker, so calls would no longer be possible either.

If you are really dedicated to the task of clandestine photos, someone could purchase a dedicated point and shoot. Or a secondary phone for which permanently disabling the speakers is not a concern. Or just shoot video.

Re: Korean Smartphones Have Mandatory Shutter Sounds, 8 in 10 Want It Muted

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Post by 1-6 »

1-6 wrote: post #38

One time, a random stranger shot pictures of my little daughter at Costco. I confronted the creep and also reported him to the staff. Costco staff couldn't do anything about it but the manager offered to escort our family around. I appreciate every little tool to keep pervs away from ruining a good thing.

It's a minor inconvenience to many but it's a necessity to a few who desperately need it to keep safe.

What if I wasn't vigilant about my surroundings? Could someone weaker have been able to confront the individual? These are the many reasons why I welcome the camera shutter sound as a required feature.

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Post by xanderlewis »

threeseed wrote: post #44
EForEndeavour wrote: post #6

> South Korea has a problem with unwanted, clandestine photography relating to upskirting and when mobile phones were introduced, authorities moved to stop perverts from taking photos of people without permission. 1. My mind is blown that this oddly specific behaviour was apparently so common that the government mandated all cellphone cameras must play shutter sounds that cannot be muted. What the hell? 2. Do third-p…

> My mind is blown that this oddly specific behaviour was apparently so common that the government mandated all cellphone cameras must play shutter sounds that cannot be muted. What the hell It was and is extremely common. It's happened to my partner, many of her friends and has been an issue for years. And is not just contained to cell phone cameras but hidden cameras in general. Public bathrooms are such a hotspot…

Definitions of ‘feminism’ seem to vary widely (and are constantly shifting) so that statistic alone is hard to interpret.

Re: Korean Smartphones Have Mandatory Shutter Sounds, 8 in 10 Want It Muted

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Post by gnicholas »

WD40ForRust2 wrote: post #45
dharmab wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iOS uses geofencing. Android typically uses the purchase region.

Android wins again!

That depends if you are a foreigner visiting Korea or a Korean who moved abroad...

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Post by threeseed »

mrkramer wrote: post #40
EForEndeavour wrote: post #6

> South Korea has a problem with unwanted, clandestine photography relating to upskirting and when mobile phones were introduced, authorities moved to stop perverts from taking photos of people without permission. 1. My mind is blown that this oddly specific behaviour was apparently so common that the government mandated all cellphone cameras must play shutter sounds that cannot be muted. What the hell? 2. Do third-p…

Isn't public photography legal? It can be creepy but it is legal, at least in the "democratic" west. And btw all modern cities have cameras all around it so you can easily catch creeps if they cross the line of legality.

Most countries have imposed laws to ban upskirts and other types of invasive photography.

It really isn't public photography by any definition.

Re: Korean Smartphones Have Mandatory Shutter Sounds, 8 in 10 Want It Muted

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Post by Izkata »

qwytw wrote: post #42
cubefox wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't much stranger than US American TV replacing "bad words" with beeps.

I would guess one outcome of that was a significant increase in bad words used on non live TV. Since they'll be beeped out it's not really big deal anymore.

Or inventing new bad words like Farscape. Don't even need to look most of them up, you'll learn at least frell, dren, tralk, and mivonks just by context and frequency of use.

Re: Korean Smartphones Have Mandatory Shutter Sounds, 8 in 10 Want It Muted

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Post by lolsal »

WD40ForRust2 wrote: post #45
dharmab wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iOS uses geofencing. Android typically uses the purchase region.

Android wins again!

Sometimes things can be different without everything being a competition between corporations and testing brand allegiance.
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